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I know it's easy to be all high and mighty when it comes to oil but our lives depend so much on oil and its derivatives. Oil not only fuels our cars but as well in our medical devices. Basically anything that is plastic came from oil.
Andy, my only quibble with your list would be how short it is. You left out some other items like "food". Our entire agricultural system runs on fossil fuels. Not to mention just about everything else in society, because plastic is in everything.

But that doesn't mean it isn't a problem. We need to move off of oil to something else, because it is killing our planet. It isn't going to be easy, and I am no saint in this myself; doesn't mean we don't need to do it.
 
It seems that the discovery of new pockets of oil on a global scale is currently of volume whereupon oil reserves are holding constant. The conclusion being that the volume of oil being used is just equal to the volume of new oil pockets being discovered. Perhaps I am mistaken, but It seems that estimates of oil running out is based upon an estimate of consumption in relation to the current estimate of oil reserves in the exclusion of further oil being discovered. The question becomes to the estimators as to how it is known that all oil has been discovered that there is to be discovered to support drawing a conclusion when oil will run out?
Not so sure it is about oil running out, it is the downsides of putting the carbon into the air and plastic into the biosphere.

Although a lot of the newer reserves you mention depend on technologies such as fracking, which may not be as safe as the industry would want you to think, or extraction methods like the Canadian tar sands, which is also not exactly 'clean'.
 
But that doesn't mean it isn't a problem. We need to move off of oil to something else, because it is killing our planet. It isn't going to be easy, and I am no saint in this myself; doesn't mean we don't need to do it.
Absolutely right. We are addicted to fossil fuels, Putin and the like are the pushers. Now we see it's not only climate, but also our security that is at stake. Let's stop being stupid and irresponsible, use less energy to start with and try to avoid fossil.
My vehicle averages 11 L/100 km.
What do you expect people to say? make other choices.
 
They are good eating and we can take 5 a year in our area. Some other municipalities allow 10. That makes it worth the gas.
My dad was planning what was then the illegal carnage of enough Canada guess to fill up the family freezer (not the small one). It so happens that the location of his intended carnage was right next to the 401, the major artery passing through South Western Ontario. All I could see was dad going to prison and myself seated with a tin cup next the highway trying to catch or duck the loonies and toonies (names of Canadian coins) thrown at me by sympathetic passersby who couldn't safely slow down from travelling at 100 Kilometres per hour.
 
Absolutely right. We are addicted to fossil fuels, Putin and the like are the pushers. Now we see it's not only climate, but also our security that is at stake. Let's stop being stupid and irresponsible, use less energy to start with and try to avoid fossil.
I wouldn't say we are "addicted" to oil. I think it's more of a necessity. I don't with the current technology, there is no any other viable alternatives.
 
Addiction, indulgence - all about the same. All anyone NEEDS is a 200 square foot apartment located directly across the street from their job. Anything beyond that can be considered an indulgence. Even commuting 20 miles each way on a bicycle - to a 2000 square foot house that takes electricity and gas to run. How many more showers do you have to take in a day? Running that washing machine every other day to keep the laundry pile from spontaneous combustion. Mowing the @#$&* grass. And how much more you have to eat….
 
I heard gas prices were high in the 70’s oil shock. It killed off the muscle car and people moved on to more efficient cars. That sounds like a rational response but global parts shortages limit availability of sensible cars for people to switch over to right now. Nevertheless, we also have another option - WFH.

I heard people were practically paying you to take their cherry muscle cars away for them because they were such petro pigs. You could get cars like an SS Chevelle's and 340 Plymyth Dusters', all the most sought after cars today. For a thousand bucks. Sometimes less. Cars that easily run minimum 40k, and even much more in todays prices. The smart people hoarded them and stuck them in a garage.
 
Lifestyle in the Western world is a kind of lifestyle that abuses and overexploits the world, especially in the USA (but also in Europe where i live). You don't need a big V8 to get arround, even for long distances (my office is about 60km from where i live, and my car (a german break) has a 1000cc turbocharged 3 cilinder gasoline engine that push 120HP out...). You don't need to eat every day huge amounts of meat (the biggest air polutors of them all is Cattle breeding on a industrial way), ... Resources are limited in this world so we need to use them right. So a change has to come (i think most realise that).

There are ways to do that, but the mind of a big part of the worlds population, mainly the older generation is not ready for that yet. But the youngsters of today are more aware of that and their mindset is slowly changing to a better more durable mindset and lifestyle. But if it's fast enough to avoid big problems, i doubt it. But if we don't change our lifestyle, the ecosystem will force us with more and more natural disasters. That is how it works as it's always seeking a stable balance, and when the balance is disturbed, it tries to rebalance, with brutal means if necesairy. And many see us humans not as a part of nature and the ecosystem, but we are just high evoluated selfconscious monkeys, and are defnitly a part of it. Those natural laws also apply to us, and it's adapt or die!
 
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Well when an Amish gets sick, he or she would go to a hospital which has a lot of electricity which comes from power from oil.
Between total dependence on fossil fuel and using zero a lot is possible. If we would minimise the use and cut back let's say 80%, we might become independent of totalitarian regimes and keep climate change under control. Why not go for it?
 
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