Thank you. First a disclaimer: I don't have a bybee and I am not planning buy one (same as with the network switches).
However, I have interviewed John Curl and other people over multiple sessions to extract as much information as John and others recall. JC has a measurement graph given to him by Jack Bybee, which I have seen. Unfortunately it is not well labeled, Jack is RIP, and John doesn't remember some details Jack discussed verbally.
According to JC, Jack Bybee was interested in power supply rail noise suppression. In fact Jack patented another product, bybee music rails, which is in my view sort of his version of something like the Wenzel active noise cancellation circuit.
Regarding bybee purifiers I will make a weak, shallow, and imperfect analogy that might help to get the idea. Let's take ferrite beads. We probably all know how they are supposed to be used to suppress noise at high frequencies. However like many products, manufacturers are trying to sell product. They are happy to provide information to get engineers interested in trying product and hopefully buying a lot of it. (Please consider a company like ESS does not feel obligated to warn you about something like hump distortion. They hope you will try their products and if you like them you will buy a lot of product. If you find by your own discovery that the products have a problem for your application then you have the option of finding a product that better suits your needs. Let's call the hump a side-effect of the Hyperstream modulator and the problems it was designed to help fix). Okay, back to ferrites. Manufacturers don't feel obligated to tell you about hysteresis distortion/noise. So, yes, you get some frequency dependent lossyness from ferrite beads, but you also get a side-effect along with it. If that side effect doesn't work for your application, well, basically, don't use the product.
Okay, back to bybees. They were intended to 'purify' power rails, but I believe they have a side-effect. The technology was claimed by Jack to have come from some noise reduction technology used in submarine electronics. Doesn't matter because the bybees Jack was selling were basically cooked up in his kitchen. His version of diy.
The clue with JC Vendetta AC line bybee experiment looks like a classic case of a preamp that is not fitted with an EMI/RFI AC inlet filter. Easy to find out by adding a line filter between the bybee and the preamp. The bybee effect on sound should be gone or at least diminished if the filter covers the right spectrum. Some ways to measure noise incursion in cases like that include using FFTs. Rather than look for HD, one looks for changes in noise floor and or changes in spectral line skirts with and without bybees and with and without an audio signal.
Preamps that have AC inlet filters should be less sensitive to AC line noise incursion and or less sensitive to power cord construction (since power cords can act like filters, depending on construction). So AC inlet filters would be expected to be one reason why bybees sometimes don't seem to do anything. Other reasons include not running enough current through them, and or psychoacoustics (different people listen different to different aspects of sound; some may notice little things that other people don't think are important; there is always a threshold of audibility and one person may be in the less sensitive 50% of the population, etc.).
The noise incursion explanation also seems consistent with observations made by careful listeners that bybees tend to make a really good system sound worse, but sometimes can make a not-so-good system sound perceptually 'better.' In a 'bad' system sometimes a little edgy signal-correlated noise/distortion can help cut through the mud and make the sound seem more clear, alive, dynamic, etc. When that happens its clearly an 'effects box' working, not a better system that results.
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OK, so they're ferrite beads. That would work in some cases.
But why all the pseudoscience/bollocks?
But why all the pseudoscience/bollocks?
My mind about "bybee":
One reason: We do hear materials. Resonances. Wooden, metal, glass, stone, plastics, rubber...
When we insert "electronic" parts, we do insert physical materials. And metal counters wooden. As example: wooden speakers do need very often metal plugs and sockets, or spikes... to get audible sound.
And: there are at least two measurement methods: Hearing measurement method, peek measurement method. To build a good amp to listen music do use hearing methods;-)
One reason: We do hear materials. Resonances. Wooden, metal, glass, stone, plastics, rubber...
When we insert "electronic" parts, we do insert physical materials. And metal counters wooden. As example: wooden speakers do need very often metal plugs and sockets, or spikes... to get audible sound.
And: there are at least two measurement methods: Hearing measurement method, peek measurement method. To build a good amp to listen music do use hearing methods;-)
According JC, Bybee appeared genuinely afraid of getting caught selling something based on something he wasn't supposed to be talking about. If so, I think the advertising story was to avoid attracting the attention of so-called, 'spooks.' However whether or not someone wants to believe Bybee (a physicist by training, according to JC) worked on military stuff at some point is kind of aside from the question of what bybee purifiers actually do.
I remember that.
If physicists ever do develop technology for so-called "time travel" then it is possible that fate could be altered, with significant consequences. Of course the amount of energy to accomplish this is entirely prohibitive. I am skeptical it will ever be achieved but I can't say it's impossible.
Imagine if you could go back in time. What would you do? Would you kill Hitler when he was in high school*? Would you buy Microsoft stock for a dollar? Fate could be significantly altered.
* I read an essay by a guy that claimed to know Hitler when he was a very young boy. He claimed that one day Hitler was drowning and the man actually saved his life. Later on in his life he was disturbed by the moral dilemma he had faced, although at the time of its occurence he couldn't have known.
I use ferrite beads. They keep high frequency hash out of your circuits. They also saturate easily and display significant nonlinearity when they do. Big surprise!
Talk about intent to deceive, same as selling used frying oil marketed as high tech snake oil. Cautious mortals would need nuclear grade hazmat suit just to be safe,
I know what i would do !
I would start import/export . Travel back in time and buy "antiques" and sell today. For audiophiles i would
buy all GE 6550A i could load and carefully sell 2022.
One of those snake oil companies just opened up in the US and different countrys.
Its a a small frequencygenerator (DC to about 500 - 600Hz) that can be programmed via an app and is to wear with an collar aroud the neck.
The little thingy can also drive a pluggable coil, which of course immediately mutated into a Tesla coil and is supposed to work with quantum entanglements.
Developed by an Quantum Researcher at some Ashram somewhere.
Former versions used a toy speaker instead of the "magic coil"
Bracelets with electrodes are also included. The "TENS" says hello but with reduced power.
After all, it can tingle a bit, which is supposed to be amazing proof of the function.
Of course the app will display many "fortune cookie related sayings" about it through resistive feedback.
They blabber about microcurents but Quamtum seems to be their main Buzzword.
Exorbitant prices and an app that is even supposed to heal foot sweat remotely as a side effect. Main application are diseases, knotted auras, groth pains in kids/dogs/cats/cars, cancer, vitamin loss, bad luck at the horse races and similar Humbug. Even former deads can walk completely healed to the doc next morning. Ashram tested!
On tiktok and other social media there are resellers who are not above ripping off retired old people in parks infront of retirement homes with their cult like behavior to rob 4000$ or more for a useless toy from hopeless people.
I'm almost sure that the rattle can also improve the Bybee into stratopheric heights and that there will be an ear healing programm too.
In this context, the Bybee and other frills are at least not harmful to health. Nobody will miss an important doctor's appointment because of singing bowls or so. However, with such "healing devices" it becomes dangerous. Look up "Healy" and some of the sellers jabbering. Every sane people should be scared about whats possible to sell. MLM...at darkest levels.
Sorry, but my bloodpreasure seems a little high after seeing their advertisement folks.
Its a a small frequencygenerator (DC to about 500 - 600Hz) that can be programmed via an app and is to wear with an collar aroud the neck.
The little thingy can also drive a pluggable coil, which of course immediately mutated into a Tesla coil and is supposed to work with quantum entanglements.
Developed by an Quantum Researcher at some Ashram somewhere.
Former versions used a toy speaker instead of the "magic coil"
Bracelets with electrodes are also included. The "TENS" says hello but with reduced power.
After all, it can tingle a bit, which is supposed to be amazing proof of the function.
Of course the app will display many "fortune cookie related sayings" about it through resistive feedback.
They blabber about microcurents but Quamtum seems to be their main Buzzword.
Exorbitant prices and an app that is even supposed to heal foot sweat remotely as a side effect. Main application are diseases, knotted auras, groth pains in kids/dogs/cats/cars, cancer, vitamin loss, bad luck at the horse races and similar Humbug. Even former deads can walk completely healed to the doc next morning. Ashram tested!
On tiktok and other social media there are resellers who are not above ripping off retired old people in parks infront of retirement homes with their cult like behavior to rob 4000$ or more for a useless toy from hopeless people.
I'm almost sure that the rattle can also improve the Bybee into stratopheric heights and that there will be an ear healing programm too.
In this context, the Bybee and other frills are at least not harmful to health. Nobody will miss an important doctor's appointment because of singing bowls or so. However, with such "healing devices" it becomes dangerous. Look up "Healy" and some of the sellers jabbering. Every sane people should be scared about whats possible to sell. MLM...at darkest levels.
Sorry, but my bloodpreasure seems a little high after seeing their advertisement folks.
Increasingly appears to be on the verge of falsification by images from the Webb telescope. What is the sound of the Bing Bang when it goes out 🙂
(This in response to Combb's post. I always thought that BB theory was about as believable as any religion. As a rule, a sane man chooses one with an afterlife. Pending one's walk of life, of course.)
(This in response to Combb's post. I always thought that BB theory was about as believable as any religion. As a rule, a sane man chooses one with an afterlife. Pending one's walk of life, of course.)
Guhhh...that stuff is hard to watch/listen to. Well done to the Vulture Watch folks for what appears a straightforward debunking approach. Too bad they're spitting into the ocean.
Sadly, a growing percentage of humanoids have apparently evolved an immunity to reason, logic, and critical thinking in general these days. Dunno where we're headed with that, but it doesn't look good. I fear it will have to get a whole lot (and I mean a WHOLE lot) worse before it gets better.
Methinks "Be true to yourself" ≈ "Just trust your ears."
Sadly, a growing percentage of humanoids have apparently evolved an immunity to reason, logic, and critical thinking in general these days. Dunno where we're headed with that, but it doesn't look good. I fear it will have to get a whole lot (and I mean a WHOLE lot) worse before it gets better.
Methinks "Be true to yourself" ≈ "Just trust your ears."
A tea light in the middle between the speakers in otherwise dark conditions can do a positive effect on spatiality and mood. Don't burn down the house.
Don't get me started. It looks to me that the population is dumbed down by design. A few minutes with a TV confirms my suspicion. I literally can't stand more than ten minutes in a room with a TV on. My brains start dripping out of my ears. The soundtracks are.... torturous and stupefying.
And let's not talk about what is happening to our education. I just found out that in my home state of Illinois that educators are not allowed to say the word "evolution" in the classroom. They can teach the facts of biology, but no "E" word because some fundie religious freak might get butthurt. Radical theocrats ("Christian Nationalists") have taken over the school boards.
What next? Flat earth? Gravity is fake? Don't say the "G" word in the classroom? I... am... so furious.
I feel your pain, Eddie. Both the pain of hearing the laugh-tracks on next doors TV and that science is a dirty word to so many in positions of power.
At least the ignorance of science displayed by certain audiophools is harmless, which is why we're here having a laugh.
At least the ignorance of science displayed by certain audiophools is harmless, which is why we're here having a laugh.
It is dismaying to see fundamentalist religious beliefs so prevalent in society, and so intertwined in politics. I just read that 38% of Americans want the country to become a "Christian" Nation. 78% of people polled from a certain party want the same theocracy for the US.
Many of these same people criticize Iran, but they actually want the exact same thing here in the US. The hypocrisy is glaring.
We are doomed. Hello stupid. This would never have happened 50 years ago. There was a distinct emphasis on scientific advancement. Now science is blasphemy and is being gutted from education and society. Many, many facepalms.
Take note fellow Canuks. This is coming to your neck of the woods too.
Many of these same people criticize Iran, but they actually want the exact same thing here in the US. The hypocrisy is glaring.
We are doomed. Hello stupid. This would never have happened 50 years ago. There was a distinct emphasis on scientific advancement. Now science is blasphemy and is being gutted from education and society. Many, many facepalms.
Take note fellow Canuks. This is coming to your neck of the woods too.
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