Here some pictures of my small 5.0 HT system based on the Tangband W3-871s units.
(Lancetta HE and CT209)
All filters applied are the same as the Lancetta High-End version.
All cabinets are increased in outher size for cosmetic resons.
The cabinets are made of 10mm thick MDF, finished with black velvet all arround.
The side panels are beech and painted with dark teak finish.
The hole at the front of the Lancetta's is finished with a thick
aluminiumplate and foam. (not shown)
(Lancetta HE and CT209)
All filters applied are the same as the Lancetta High-End version.
All cabinets are increased in outher size for cosmetic resons.
The cabinets are made of 10mm thick MDF, finished with black velvet all arround.
The side panels are beech and painted with dark teak finish.
The hole at the front of the Lancetta's is finished with a thick
aluminiumplate and foam. (not shown)
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Small Horns
Hi,
this is a picture of my beloved Bicors; I was offered an old pair of enclosures that I refurbished using an electric sander and two coats of primer. They still need the finishing coats, but I cannot decide on the colour.
Drivers are Lowther PM6Cs, modified by Mr Stamm (former Loth-X). They sound truly excellent IMHO, lacking most of that infamous "shout". No tweeter needed either.
These are modified Buschhorns (smaller CC, additional bracing). Unfortunately they are not perfect, as they are made from 12mm MDF (wrong thickness/material) and resonate at times. With the right music, they simply disappear. I just have to build them again with 19mm plywood, which I'm going to do this winter. It seems my GF loves these speakers even more than I do. Strange.
Hi,
this is a picture of my beloved Bicors; I was offered an old pair of enclosures that I refurbished using an electric sander and two coats of primer. They still need the finishing coats, but I cannot decide on the colour.
Drivers are Lowther PM6Cs, modified by Mr Stamm (former Loth-X). They sound truly excellent IMHO, lacking most of that infamous "shout". No tweeter needed either.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
These are modified Buschhorns (smaller CC, additional bracing). Unfortunately they are not perfect, as they are made from 12mm MDF (wrong thickness/material) and resonate at times. With the right music, they simply disappear. I just have to build them again with 19mm plywood, which I'm going to do this winter. It seems my GF loves these speakers even more than I do. Strange.
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Re: Small Horns
Chris' wife was also very anamoured of the looks of his B-Horns. To the point of buying him another set of drivers when someone talked him out of them 🙂
dave
coredump said:It seems my GF loves these speakers even more than I do. Strange.
Chris' wife was also very anamoured of the looks of his B-Horns. To the point of buying him another set of drivers when someone talked him out of them 🙂
dave
Re: Re: Small Horns
Same speaker, same story in my house 😉 My girlf is very happy with them. From an aesthetic point of view they are proportionally just about perfect I think, that was one of the big factors in my choosing to build a pair. Of course, let's not forget they sound superb too and offer great versatility. Coredump, those look very impressive in red now!
planet10 said:Chris' wife was also very anamoured of the looks of his B-Horns. To the point of buying him another set of drivers when someone talked him out of them 🙂
Same speaker, same story in my house 😉 My girlf is very happy with them. From an aesthetic point of view they are proportionally just about perfect I think, that was one of the big factors in my choosing to build a pair. Of course, let's not forget they sound superb too and offer great versatility. Coredump, those look very impressive in red now!
The tallish slim aspect of the B-Horns, is i think, what is appealing. A test of this is underway. Our next CSS WR/FR project is a sealed bipole floorstander. Size of the front is almost bang on the B-Horns, but it is not as deep (~240mm).
dave
dave
Ropie said:Superb!
Obviously a good eye for an interior 😉
What is the design: MLTL, Voigt Pipe?
Thankx 😉
This is for the first time my partner likes my DIY speakers. 😀
The Lancetta's HE are simple TM with two Helmholtz resonators .
See here : the Lancetta's
Ok,
I can't resist.
Pics of my Ultra High-end, active Fullrange monitor project:
Yes, I know it looks suspiciously like those Z-2200 ebay specials and some PE buyout cabinets (maybe $120 total cost)
Cheers,
AJ 😉
I can't resist.
Pics of my Ultra High-end, active Fullrange monitor project:
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Yes, I know it looks suspiciously like those Z-2200 ebay specials and some PE buyout cabinets (maybe $120 total cost)
Cheers,
AJ 😉
My wife also loves the B'horns, (must be something genetic no?)
A tad more bass would be nice at times, but their ability to disappear, combined with their size, makes 'em a winner Chez Moi!
A tad more bass would be nice at times, but their ability to disappear, combined with their size, makes 'em a winner Chez Moi!
Re: Small Horns
Thanks! And, as expected, it was a real PITA to get there. Red seems to be one of the colours that need more coats than others until it's solid. Nine in my case, with a good (and careful) sanding between every coat. This alone is a strong enough argument for me to use real wood with my next enclosures. ;-)
Best regards,
Oliver
Ropie wrote:
[...]Coredump, those look very impressive in red now!
Thanks! And, as expected, it was a real PITA to get there. Red seems to be one of the colours that need more coats than others until it's solid. Nine in my case, with a good (and careful) sanding between every coat. This alone is a strong enough argument for me to use real wood with my next enclosures. ;-)
Best regards,
Oliver
Jordan JX92S in GM's ML-TL box (not as wide as original). (Dynaudio Audience 52 and 42C in the background)
Listening distance is 290 cm (60 degree triangle). At the moment the speakers have been placed with their axes crossing atleast 100 cm in front of the listener. This way the side wall reflections decrease conciderably. Also the upper frequencies roll off rapidly. I have added high quality tweeters on top of the speakers and aimed them upwards. The cut off frequency is about 12 kHz, but I intend to raise it a few kHz.
The sound stage is now incredibly accurate (too accurate with some recordings). High frequency response is airy and sweet. There is no more sibilance and hardness in the sound.
I recommend trying this kind of configuration. Doesn't cost a dime if you have a few tweeters and caps laying around
Listening distance is 290 cm (60 degree triangle). At the moment the speakers have been placed with their axes crossing atleast 100 cm in front of the listener. This way the side wall reflections decrease conciderably. Also the upper frequencies roll off rapidly. I have added high quality tweeters on top of the speakers and aimed them upwards. The cut off frequency is about 12 kHz, but I intend to raise it a few kHz.
The sound stage is now incredibly accurate (too accurate with some recordings). High frequency response is airy and sweet. There is no more sibilance and hardness in the sound.
I recommend trying this kind of configuration. Doesn't cost a dime if you have a few tweeters and caps laying around

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mrlots2do said:The Lancetta's look interesting, I'd like to build a set. Could someone send me plans.
Thanks
Hello,
I've uploaded a scanned file of the Lancetta as it stood in a
D.I.Y. magazine.
(PDF file)
Unfortunatly for most of the readers / posters here is it in German.
Click HERE to open the file.
AJinFLA said:
Pics of my Ultra High-end, active Fullrange monitor project:
Nice finish! Almost looks like the cabs are made of Corian.
Masuji - that velvet is something I never would have thought of, beautiful!! 😀
Thanks Masuji
LOL.... I'm german lauguage challenged but I think I can figure everything out on the Lancetta pdf.
LOL.... I'm german lauguage challenged but I think I can figure everything out on the Lancetta pdf.
sumacSK said:Hi Jean-Marc,
How this (new) speakers compare to old ones with monacor drivers? What about the bass extension?
Thanks Martin
Bonjour Martin,
Qts with current source (50 Ohms) is about 1,5 and the four drivers in arrays increase for 6 dB the efficiency so there is correlation, about 200Hz. These two points are open baffle compensations.
Baffle with Fostex is somewhat larger than first with Monacor and corner of room are some use for effect on bass.
Bass extension is pleased, and even surprising for a dipole configuration.
Higher register is more extended than with Monacor, no tweeter is now not at all a deficiency.
There is less distortion, learn is transparent, I'm very pleased !
Jean-Marc.
Re: fe206e blh
Fall 1974. Christmas present for my brother. They came back this summer.
Today we'd call this a bipolar alphaTL. Back then we called it an EPI MicroTower clone.
Seems they are back to the future. Been a long ways between them & here. The latest off the drawing board are amazingly similar.
Soft on the top off axis, but quite surprising.
dave
built these a while back.
Fall 1974. Christmas present for my brother. They came back this summer.
Today we'd call this a bipolar alphaTL. Back then we called it an EPI MicroTower clone.
Seems they are back to the future. Been a long ways between them & here. The latest off the drawing board are amazingly similar.
Soft on the top off axis, but quite surprising.
dave
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A lot of older designs are good. No reason why they cannot be revived.
Here is a design I built which I made use of for a few years; used a full range 12" from a Baldwin tone cab.A modified "ace"design with an angled top face. This worked excellent with the 2a3 tube amps I was using at the time.🙂
cheers from Surrey B.C.
doggy
Here is a design I built which I made use of for a few years; used a full range 12" from a Baldwin tone cab.A modified "ace"design with an angled top face. This worked excellent with the 2a3 tube amps I was using at the time.🙂
cheers from Surrey B.C.
doggy
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Hi doggy,
I remember something like that from my old days as well. Mine was smaller and used an Altec 8" 409 coaxial (sort of) Do you still have those? Love to hear them.
Let's see if you live in Surrey and you're under a bridge we may be close. Why not send me an email and we can take this up further.
Cal
I remember something like that from my old days as well. Mine was smaller and used an Altec 8" 409 coaxial (sort of) Do you still have those? Love to hear them.
Let's see if you live in Surrey and you're under a bridge we may be close. Why not send me an email and we can take this up further.
Cal
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