Perhaps "really" and "well proven" have a different meaning in Australia than the US. It wouldn't be the first time I've been tripped up by language difficulties
Unfortunately this is not one of them.
There are higher stages that supposedly can be achieved. For example, stage 4 is supposed to nullify gravity. There are people who claim to have approached this stage, with the car weight getting less and less
I'm rather worried about cars accumulating so much energy they simply float off up into the stratosphere. This could possibly explain a few recent UFO sightings in the Australian outback.
BWRX said:
One particular documentary I saw on college sticks in my mind to this day. It was about some form of martial arts and the master put his arm out and challenged the students to throw him. This was an older asian guy mind you, and every time a younger student tried to grab his arm and throw him he was met with a great deal of difficulty. In fact, they couldn't move the old man at all. Then the old man took his hand and motioned as if to push the one student in the chest and it sent him flying backward like something out of the matrix (not quite that exaggerated though).
As a long time practitioner of martial arts I have come to realize that there is as much BS in martial arts as there is in audio, probably more, after all, it has been around a lot longer.
I_F
To quote Bruce Lee, master of the one inch punch of which you speak:
"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."
It seems that Bruce Lee was powered by the same substance as Joe's cell- water.
max
"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend."
It seems that Bruce Lee was powered by the same substance as Joe's cell- water.
max
panomaniac said:Thanks for the photo, Luka. You can read the meters in that one.
Looks like about 180 watts in - 380 watts out. Hmmmmm....
(Slovenia, I think)
Well, that's if you discount phase shift, of course. It isn't particularly difficult to have 100V AC and 100A AC, and still have 0 watts. That's what's known as a difficult load, in loudspeaker terms...
Rune
runebivrin said:It isn't particularly difficult to have 100V AC and 100A AC, and still have 0 watts.
OK, but would that show up on ordinary analog meters such as in the video? They are supposed to be running light bulbs as a load. Just a resistive load. But the phase idea is a good hint as to what might be going on.
But of course we have no idea how the thing is really wired. One could easily set up the demo to show whatever currents and voltages you want.
I think I might invest some money in these two power sources - as soon as my buddies in Nigeria transfer the two million dollars into my bank account.
Just because we think they're the fundamental building block of all matter
We don't. For example, people have found these things called "electrons"which appear to be among the building blocks of atoms.
The martial arts stuff is funny. You'll note that the "master" doesn't allow just anyone to try to knock him over...
edit: Go to www.randi.org and do a search for "martial" to get a pile of info on the trickery used. And, while you're at it, visit www.badmartialarts.com for yet more.
Cal Weldon said:
If you think acupuncture is about placebo, you haven't been poked.
I am well aware of and a big believer in placebo.
I have been "poked" actually. It was "ear acupuncture" that a friend had recommended.
I found the whole experience pointless and painful. When one of those needles actually hits a nerve.....



maxro said:Placebo is the true source of free energy. It is what powers the Joe Cell.
Isn't Placebo that opera guy 😕
theAnonymous1 said:
I have been "poked" actually. It was "ear acupuncture" that a friend had recommended.
I found the whole experience pointless and painful. When one of those needles actually hits a nerve.....![]()
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It's obvious it wouldn't have worked, it's because you didn't 'believe' or 'have faith'!

People pay money to be 'pinned'. I should have listened less (a lot less) to my physics and biology teachers - I could be making loads of money from gullible people rather than scraping by selling to Scrooge McDuck!

Here's someone getting their ears cleaned -- the epitome of hygiene:
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I’ve tried so many cells in my time, none of them can deliver cheap and good long lasting DC source to be used to power something useful, But the bleach battery with aluminum electrodes works better than the most I’ve build, so I don’t think anything would ever work that would be free information to the public. All the best stuff will probably be hidden. Not even the “Japie duk trul” cell would work, it would probably last al long as my modified Daniell’s cell “Copper-Zinc Galvanic Cell” that only last 3min on full load 0.30Amps max 0.5V and takes a 7min to make.
theAnonymous1 said:Why the heck would anyone take the "Joe Cell" seriously? I mean look at this utter nonsense......
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Sure we do..... it's called the placebo effect.![]()
The joe cell produces something akin to brown's gas, which is a combination of oxygen and hydrogen, and montatomic oxygen and monatomic hydrogen. The monatomics 'implode' at about 20-21psi, so yes, the engine will run cold. So yes, a 'joe cell' works.
Spend about $4k, and get one of these, start playing with it.....and see that none of that stuff is bull.
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That, is a 1600L/hour (upgraded from 1200L/hour) Brown's gas generator. From Eagle Research, by far the best generator and design on the planet. Thanks, George! (George Weisman)
What doest that mean?
It means, technological edge wise....EAT MY DUST.
www.brownsgas.com
You are living far behind the curve and the leading edge. Even with this, I am behind the leading edge.
But not by much, and if I'm smart with what I know and figure out... I'm ahead of even that.
Snooze.....you loose. Go big, or stay home. etc.
I certainly don't doubt that electrolysis exists and that the resultant hydrogen and oxygen can be burned as a flame or add to the air intake of an engine.
What I doubt is that the resulting combustion will yield MORE energy than it took to separate the water into elements in the first place. Not a big deal for welding, but it is a problem if you are tying to produce energy. Not to mention the energy needed to distill the water to run the generator.
I friend of mine wanted to put one of these on his truck and run it from the alternator to save fuel costs. It seems to me that the energy needed to split the water, plus the inefficiencies of the system, would be much more than any gain in engine power.
However, he does have 3 large solar panels on the truck camper top, so if those panels powered the Browns Gas generator then it might be an effective way of using solar power to help power the truck.
If someone can show that the combustion of "Brown's Gas" results in more power than it takes to distill and split the water, then I'm ready to get one.
What I doubt is that the resulting combustion will yield MORE energy than it took to separate the water into elements in the first place. Not a big deal for welding, but it is a problem if you are tying to produce energy. Not to mention the energy needed to distill the water to run the generator.
I friend of mine wanted to put one of these on his truck and run it from the alternator to save fuel costs. It seems to me that the energy needed to split the water, plus the inefficiencies of the system, would be much more than any gain in engine power.
However, he does have 3 large solar panels on the truck camper top, so if those panels powered the Browns Gas generator then it might be an effective way of using solar power to help power the truck.
If someone can show that the combustion of "Brown's Gas" results in more power than it takes to distill and split the water, then I'm ready to get one.
At this point, I don't think that it does. The right material or substance is needed, in terms of the idea of over-unity.
HOWEVER... what a browns gas generator will do..is it will combust every single component within the gasoline firing. 100%.
ZERO effluent. and, a fuel efficency increase (end result), with the draw of the hardware taken fully into account, of about 25-40%, depending on the vehicle type.
It can make a diesel city bus notably more fuel efficent, and 100% emissions free, not cat converters of any kind required. Full and complete combustion. Lowered thermals, too boot. Less engine wear, by far. So lower costs there too.
All for about $375, plus install. The hardware is available...today.
So, your friend can have a 25-40% efficency increase, and a true zero emissions vehicle.
And that is far from bad. In fact, it's damn good.
Oh yeah, a HP increase of about 10% or maybe a hair more, is the usual result. modest. From the full combustion effect, it is easy to see where the modest HP increase comes from. Higher rpm capacity as well, as you can imagine, from cooler exhaust and combustion cycle. The burn is faster and more complete. Far less heat down the pipe. So, may as well loose the cat converters, they aren't doing anything any more. A few more HP there.
There goes the precious metals market for the cat converters.
Ford is dying. They should give this a shot. If anyone here, knows someone there at Ford, who can actually do smething good for once, let them know.
HOWEVER... what a browns gas generator will do..is it will combust every single component within the gasoline firing. 100%.
ZERO effluent. and, a fuel efficency increase (end result), with the draw of the hardware taken fully into account, of about 25-40%, depending on the vehicle type.
It can make a diesel city bus notably more fuel efficent, and 100% emissions free, not cat converters of any kind required. Full and complete combustion. Lowered thermals, too boot. Less engine wear, by far. So lower costs there too.
All for about $375, plus install. The hardware is available...today.
So, your friend can have a 25-40% efficency increase, and a true zero emissions vehicle.
And that is far from bad. In fact, it's damn good.
Oh yeah, a HP increase of about 10% or maybe a hair more, is the usual result. modest. From the full combustion effect, it is easy to see where the modest HP increase comes from. Higher rpm capacity as well, as you can imagine, from cooler exhaust and combustion cycle. The burn is faster and more complete. Far less heat down the pipe. So, may as well loose the cat converters, they aren't doing anything any more. A few more HP there.
There goes the precious metals market for the cat converters.
Ford is dying. They should give this a shot. If anyone here, knows someone there at Ford, who can actually do smething good for once, let them know.
As I understand it, these hydrolisis devices can be powered over-unity with low voltage, low current pulsed square wave DC and regular tap water. The trick is in getting the frequency to correspond to some natural resonance of the water. I saw a schematic somewhere on the web involving an NE555 timer and a couple of pots to adjust frequency and duty cycle.
You "over-unity" guys should get together with the "intelligent design" guys. You have a lot more in common than you might think.
What's next, prayer breakfasts at the Pentagon?
I_F
What's next, prayer breakfasts at the Pentagon?
I_F
Your 100% correct maxro, I saw something like that in a water powered car
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/carplans.htm
So if someone can actually can be able to break the hydrogen and oxygen in into individual gasses using very to energy with a high efficiency.
I did an experiment and used a big bucket with 12 stainless steel plate and full of water, aligned like this +-+-+-+-+-+- and connect it to my 12V car battery, and then I you see a lot of bubbles and stuff so I closed the thing and connected a small pipe to it’s and secured it over a flame, and nothing happened, so after 2min I disconnect the pipe and light a match a hold the flame over the tiny little hole in the top of the bucket using a long piece wood with a burning match on the end and then kaafu$%boooom, the whole thing popped open and have plashed my garage fill of water and I have almost crappped in my pants 4 real it sounded like a cannon went of in my garage.
hydrogen your fuel and oxygen your oxidizer, does not like open flames with people around
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/carplans.htm
So if someone can actually can be able to break the hydrogen and oxygen in into individual gasses using very to energy with a high efficiency.
I did an experiment and used a big bucket with 12 stainless steel plate and full of water, aligned like this +-+-+-+-+-+- and connect it to my 12V car battery, and then I you see a lot of bubbles and stuff so I closed the thing and connected a small pipe to it’s and secured it over a flame, and nothing happened, so after 2min I disconnect the pipe and light a match a hold the flame over the tiny little hole in the top of the bucket using a long piece wood with a burning match on the end and then kaafu$%boooom, the whole thing popped open and have plashed my garage fill of water and I have almost crappped in my pants 4 real it sounded like a cannon went of in my garage.
hydrogen your fuel and oxygen your oxidizer, does not like open flames with people around
A major part of the world economy has been based on the production and control of the production of energy. If someone comes along with a cheap and efficient means of creating energy they are pulling the rug from under the feet of the vested interests that control energy. This is a powerful incentive to surpress research into alternative forms of energy.
In the 70's ther was extensive research into utilizing wave energy. It produced promising research, but the oil companies lobbied the British government very heavily to drop its funding for that research. Only now is that research been revisited and the potential is starting to be realised.
To think that economics is not the driving force behind the developement and surpression of energy research is nieve. Up until very recently the economic argument has been firmy on the boot of cheap oil.
In the UK there is extensive talk of a new wave of nuclear power plants. This is all off the back of huge lobbying from the Nuclear industry. The potential for profit for the Nuclear industry is practically unlimited. Do you think that is a good argument for its extensive adoption?
It is my firm belief that cheap energy is a technology that already exists, but it serves no ones purpose to develope it at the moment.
Shoog
In the 70's ther was extensive research into utilizing wave energy. It produced promising research, but the oil companies lobbied the British government very heavily to drop its funding for that research. Only now is that research been revisited and the potential is starting to be realised.
To think that economics is not the driving force behind the developement and surpression of energy research is nieve. Up until very recently the economic argument has been firmy on the boot of cheap oil.
In the UK there is extensive talk of a new wave of nuclear power plants. This is all off the back of huge lobbying from the Nuclear industry. The potential for profit for the Nuclear industry is practically unlimited. Do you think that is a good argument for its extensive adoption?
It is my firm belief that cheap energy is a technology that already exists, but it serves no ones purpose to develope it at the moment.
Shoog
maxro said:I believe that Einstein was an "intelligent design guy".
Nope, sorry, not even vaguely true. Einstein died 40 years before Creationism was rebranded as ID.
Free energy scams, along with the associated conspiracy theories, have been around for many, many years, and always will be- there's an unlimited supply of the gullible.
It's instructive to read the stories of Dennis Lee, Joe Newman, James Patterson, Randell Mills, Eugene Podkletnov, and other contemporary energy scam artists. To get a sense of how old this stuff is, Robert Fludd was claiming "over unity" back in the 1600s.
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