J2 with mosfets
I'd like to compare my EVUL based J2 with a mosfets based J2. Here's why.
The J2 is a very satisfying amp.
I could get into what I hear, but I'm sure no one cares.
I think that if a mosfet based J2 were available, and comes close to the J2, more people could built it and enjoy it. I thought I might have been too ambitious in wanting to build a J2. I mean, how different could it be from a F3, F5 F4, F7? It's different, and it's fun listening to it
So my question is, can mosfets be dropped in place of the R100 jets without blowing up the output stage?
How much circuit tweaking would be required?
Thanks in advance.
I'd like to compare my EVUL based J2 with a mosfets based J2. Here's why.
The J2 is a very satisfying amp.
I could get into what I hear, but I'm sure no one cares.
I think that if a mosfet based J2 were available, and comes close to the J2, more people could built it and enjoy it. I thought I might have been too ambitious in wanting to build a J2. I mean, how different could it be from a F3, F5 F4, F7? It's different, and it's fun listening to it
So my question is, can mosfets be dropped in place of the R100 jets without blowing up the output stage?
How much circuit tweaking would be required?
Thanks in advance.
You should build the UDNeSS to compare.
It is deliberately designed to have similar open loop transfer function to the J2-Clone schematics I pushed.
And everyone can build because it only uses active devices available from Mouser.
So no LS JFET required.
UDNeSS, or You don't need Semisouth's
Patrick
It is deliberately designed to have similar open loop transfer function to the J2-Clone schematics I pushed.
And everyone can build because it only uses active devices available from Mouser.
So no LS JFET required.
UDNeSS, or You don't need Semisouth's
Patrick
I'd like to compare my EVUL based J2 with a mosfets based J2. Here's why.
The J2 is a very satisfying amp.
I could get into what I hear, but I'm sure no one cares.
I think that if a mosfet based J2 were available, and comes close to the J2, more people could built it and enjoy it. I thought I might have been too ambitious in wanting to build a J2. I mean, how different could it be from a F3, F5 F4, F7? It's different, and it's fun listening to it
So my question is, can mosfets be dropped in place of the R100 jets without blowing up the output stage?
How much circuit tweaking would be required?
Thanks in advance.
Not sure if this helps but as per Nelson himself... See Post 1127 & 1130
FirstWatt J2
The answer is yes, and the result is quite good. The R100''s
give a little bit better performance.
give a little bit better performance.
Patrick also did a version with the Hitachi/Renesas latfets somewhere in this thread, I believe.
ZenMod's Babelfish J2 can be done with pair of IRFP150's
Babelfish ᄅſ....or FW J2 on Steroids .... or Not your Father's J2!
Babelfish ᄅſ....or FW J2 on Steroids .... or Not your Father's J2!
vdi_nenna
If you intend to build, you should use the final version in post#89, and not that in post#1 :
UDNeSS, or You don't need Semisouth's
Gerber files in post#90, #91.
Patrick
If you intend to build, you should use the final version in post#89, and not that in post#1 :
UDNeSS, or You don't need Semisouth's
Gerber files in post#90, #91.
Patrick
> I think we were hoping for the J2X version.
Spiced that a long time ago.
It only works well if you have very well matched parts to cancel 2nd harmonics.
But the whole point of J2 is about 2nd harmonics, right ?
So why would you want to get rid of that by going balanced ?
And of course it will double your costs for SJEPs.
Cheers,
Patrick
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Spiced that a long time ago.
It only works well if you have very well matched parts to cancel 2nd harmonics.
But the whole point of J2 is about 2nd harmonics, right ?
So why would you want to get rid of that by going balanced ?
And of course it will double your costs for SJEPs.
Cheers,
Patrick
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vdi_nenna
If you intend to build, you should use the final version in post#89, and not that in post#1 :
UDNeSS, or You don't need Semisouth's
Gerber files in post#90, #91.
Patrick
Thanks Patrick, I spent a few hours last night reading posts and trying to figure out the latest version.
I found UDNeSSV2a.zip to have a later Last Modified date than UDNeSSV2.zip. Maybe they are completely different boards?
Is it still possible for the original poster/thread starter to edit post number 1?
Would save OP explanations and reader time finding the latest and greatest version of schematic and PCB.
Thanks,
Vince
Already explained in post #121, and people should read the whole thread for the complete picture.
But no more thread hijacking.
Patrick
But no more thread hijacking.
Patrick
doing balanced UDNESS fix Issue with unobtainable part
would you please briefly describe 3rd and 2nd harmonic sound
would you please briefly describe 3rd and 2nd harmonic sound
> I think we were hoping for the J2X version.
Spiced that a long time ago.
It only works well if you have very well matched parts to cancel 2nd harmonics.
But the whole point of J2 is about 2nd harmonics, right ?
So why would you want to get rid of that by going balanced ?
And of course it will double your costs for SJEPs.
Cheers,
Patrick
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Hello there.
First a huge thanks to Jeff and others who've made this possible. I've just got to know of this project and from what I can tell there are 2 versions (one with the hard to come by Semisouth and the other a variant with probably easier to get parts proposed by EUVL). Apologies if I got this wrong. I posted these questions to the GB on the "Long and Skinny" boards but didn't get a reply. May be this is the right place.
I have a few questions pertaining to the Semisouth version. Just to make sure I've got everything covered and possibly help someone else get started.
- I think these are the steps to follow:
- On the PSU front I could locate Jeff's PSU. Is that the right one? Looks like there is also the CRC supply. Pros/Cons?
- Any special specs for an "audio" grade mains toroid transformer?
- If one wanted a soft start (to avoid the loud pop through speaker) is there an add on circuit you recommend?
- Is any kind of speaker protection built-in? If not, any suggested circuit?
- Is any kind of thermal auto-off protection built-in? If not, any auggested circuit?
- I assume this is rated at 25 Watts? What is the maximum power consumption?
- Silly question maybe but would you say the amp is quiet/silent with no input?
- Is there a suggested enclosure? Again importing one will be expensive so if there was (ideally) a CAD drawing I could check with a local company. Would like some suggestions on how to spec the heat sinks on the side?
Thanks again.
First a huge thanks to Jeff and others who've made this possible. I've just got to know of this project and from what I can tell there are 2 versions (one with the hard to come by Semisouth and the other a variant with probably easier to get parts proposed by EUVL). Apologies if I got this wrong. I posted these questions to the GB on the "Long and Skinny" boards but didn't get a reply. May be this is the right place.
I have a few questions pertaining to the Semisouth version. Just to make sure I've got everything covered and possibly help someone else get started.
- I think these are the steps to follow:
- See if you can afford 4 Semisouth SJEP120R100 (don't need to be matched)
- Get 8 matched SJ74BL (or at least 4 matched per channel) and 4 matched (or 2 matched per channel) SK170GR (mostly from seller punkydawgs on Ebay)
- Get PCBs L & R
- Get rest of the items from the BOM
- On the PSU front I could locate Jeff's PSU. Is that the right one? Looks like there is also the CRC supply. Pros/Cons?
- Any special specs for an "audio" grade mains toroid transformer?
- If one wanted a soft start (to avoid the loud pop through speaker) is there an add on circuit you recommend?
- Is any kind of speaker protection built-in? If not, any suggested circuit?
- Is any kind of thermal auto-off protection built-in? If not, any auggested circuit?
- I assume this is rated at 25 Watts? What is the maximum power consumption?
- Silly question maybe but would you say the amp is quiet/silent with no input?
- Is there a suggested enclosure? Again importing one will be expensive so if there was (ideally) a CAD drawing I could check with a local company. Would like some suggestions on how to spec the heat sinks on the side?
Thanks again.
Here is what i have done so far for my build.
Chassis is from Aliexpress selling at very low price.case 285*150*370mm WA109 aluminum amplifier chassis/Class A power amplifier/Pure post amplifier case/AMP Enclosure /case/DIY box|Amplifier| - AliExpress
Heatsinks from Conrad Engr 350x151x40


Final assembly will look like this (M2X inside at the moment).

Can't comment further till i power up to check if HS surfaces are adequate for dissipation for J2 application.
Chassis is from Aliexpress selling at very low price.case 285*150*370mm WA109 aluminum amplifier chassis/Class A power amplifier/Pure post amplifier case/AMP Enclosure /case/DIY box|Amplifier| - AliExpress
Heatsinks from Conrad Engr 350x151x40


Final assembly will look like this (M2X inside at the moment).

Can't comment further till i power up to check if HS surfaces are adequate for dissipation for J2 application.
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