The Third wire in your mains cable is the Protective Earth (PE).
This green/yellow (in EU and others) goes direct to CHASSIS with no other joints and is mechanically fixed so that it can never fall off. It should preferably be short.
It must be PERMANENT. Don't dismantle it.
This is the connection that blows the mains fuse if the chassis ever comes into contact with a broken mains Live wire.
This PE is what prevents you killing your loved ones !
This green/yellow (in EU and others) goes direct to CHASSIS with no other joints and is mechanically fixed so that it can never fall off. It should preferably be short.
It must be PERMANENT. Don't dismantle it.
This is the connection that blows the mains fuse if the chassis ever comes into contact with a broken mains Live wire.
This PE is what prevents you killing your loved ones !
In addition, if your build has any exposed conductive parts, then these too should be connected to the protected chassis.
This includes metal sockets projecting through the chassis panels that have exposed metal parts that anyone could touch.
It also includes the metal shafts of controls that project through the chassis panels.
It also includes screw heads that project through insulated panels and could be touched.
Any EXPOSED conductive part should be connected to the protected chassis.
This includes metal sockets projecting through the chassis panels that have exposed metal parts that anyone could touch.
It also includes the metal shafts of controls that project through the chassis panels.
It also includes screw heads that project through insulated panels and could be touched.
Any EXPOSED conductive part should be connected to the protected chassis.
I am after some advice on F5Tv3, can't get my head around as to where to look for solutions
I am building v3 monoblocks, 42V rails, otherwise a standard F5T. Cascode ratio is 1/3 as in original documentation.
When powered on at zero bias the output gets almost full positive rail voltage, 40V
The front end, when unconnected, has no short circuit. The output boards have no short circuit. The PSU works normal.
When I put all together and power on, it is 40V DC at output.
Any ideas where to look for solution?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I am building v3 monoblocks, 42V rails, otherwise a standard F5T. Cascode ratio is 1/3 as in original documentation.
When powered on at zero bias the output gets almost full positive rail voltage, 40V
The front end, when unconnected, has no short circuit. The output boards have no short circuit. The PSU works normal.
When I put all together and power on, it is 40V DC at output.
Any ideas where to look for solution?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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Hi.
Recheck bias pots. If you use PCB'S from the store one pot turn is CW and the other CCW.
Figge.
Recheck bias pots. If you use PCB'S from the store one pot turn is CW and the other CCW.
Figge.
Are you giys setting the bias always with input grounded ? Or as well just plain open ? Are you using dummy loads at the speaker output or as well plain open ?
And check that output offset does not change when you connect the source. Both when the source is switched on and when switched off.
F5T V2,JFET around 8mA Idss, need cascode?
What is your rail voltage? In the circuit the Jfets run at about 15% less than Idss. Multiply that by about 10% less than rail voltage and that will give the Jfet power dissipation roughly. Over 150mw, cascode it is the consensus among the experienced on this forum.
nash
What is your rail voltage? In the circuit the Jfets run at about 15% less than Idss. Multiply that by about 10% less than rail voltage and that will give the Jfet power dissipation roughly. Over 150mw, cascode it is the consensus among the experienced on this forum.
nash
Secondary around 26V(24V secondary, 115V primary, house hold 125V), DC could reach around 33V
What is your rail voltage? In the circuit the Jfets run at about 15% less than Idss. Multiply that by about 10% less than rail voltage and that will give the Jfet power dissipation roughly. Over 150mw, cascode it is the consensus among the experienced on this forum.
nash
using Nash guide and your numbers:Secondary around 26V(24V secondary, 115V primary, house hold 125V), DC could reach around 33V
0.85*Idss * 0.9*Vdc < 150mW
If your Idss is 8mA and Vdc is 33Vdc, then you have 0.85*8 * 0.9*33 = 202mW.
That is well above 150mW.
I would aim for even lower than 150mW. I suggest <=100mW
10mA for Id @ 10Vds, or 8mA for Id @ 12Vds, or 6mA for Id @ 17Vds
Pmax for the To92 jFET is around 300mW to 400mW, running at 50% of Pmax raises the temperature a lot.
Aiming for ~40% of Pmax with a raised Ta inside the enclosure will still run the jFETs pretty warm.
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using Nash guide and your numbers:
0.85*Idss * 0.9*Vdc < 150mW
If your Idss is 8mA and Vdc is 33Vdc, then you have 0.85*8 * 0.9*33 = 202mW.
That is well above 150mW.
I would aim for even lower than 150mW. I suggest <=100mW
10mA for Id @ 10Vds, or 8mA for Id @ 12Vds, or 6mA for Id @ 17Vds
Pmax for the To92 jFET is around 300mW to 400mW, running at 50% of Pmax raises the temperature a lot.
Aiming for ~40% of Pmax with a raised Ta inside the enclosure will still run the jFETs pretty warm.
Thanks Andrew. Which basically means F5 Turbo V2 need cascade unless use around Idss 6.4mA JFETs or lower...
hot jFETs combined with high Vds leads to high gate leakage current.
They might have a very safe Vds rating when cold, but that changes (a lot) when you run them hot.
The datasheet will show gate leakage vs Temp.
The datasheet will also show gate leakage vs Vds.
I can't recall the datasheet showing the combination.
They might have a very safe Vds rating when cold, but that changes (a lot) when you run them hot.
The datasheet will show gate leakage vs Temp.
The datasheet will also show gate leakage vs Vds.
I can't recall the datasheet showing the combination.
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hot jFETs combined with high Vds leads to high gate leakage current.
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Thanks Andrew.
Forgot where I saw, probably the BOM or build guide, suggests no cascode for V2 the simpler the better something.
I matched the 2SK170/J74 around 8mA Idss for F5T...still a bit high based on above calculation. Anyhow, cascode won't harm...
The bridge that is used between ground and earth, what are the actual specifications needed for it to do its function of safety during failure? I have one specified rating, but it's a bit large and wanted to get away with something more compact if I can.
current wise - stronger than mains fuse
Does voltage rating need to be be greater than main voltage as well?
hopefully
though , in case of function of that safety device , one will have much greater things to worry - new mains xformer and plenty of amp parts
that bridge is there in case of shortie/major leak between xformer primary and secondary
though , in case of function of that safety device , one will have much greater things to worry - new mains xformer and plenty of amp parts
that bridge is there in case of shortie/major leak between xformer primary and secondary
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