F3 Builders Thread

Well, there's also Epcos, Vishay, Kemet ... if you shop around a bit and are not in a hurry, you can find some amazing bargains, as these are now standard industrial items on power electronics like industrial SMPS or power inverters.

I paid 38 EUR for two boxes with 27 caps each of these, surplus ...


I've built the B+ power supply for my EL84PP tube amp by paralleling a few of this type of caps for each channel ...

I got the same boxes for the same price from ebay.de 🙂
 
I'm about to finish my F3 and have taken the advice that Chas provided about adjusting R5 using a 10ohm 10w variable pot to get 3.5v from the LU1014. Is there any reason that I need to remove the pot from the amp once it is set? I know that I would need to secure the pot.
 
I built up the amp, and put a 10ohm 5W potentiometer in place of R5 with the initial resistance set per Vgs and the chart below. P1 and P2 set to mid position by counting turns. After approximately 5 minutes after power up begin to periodically adjust P1 and the "R5" potentiometer as the amp warms up to keep the voltages at Q1 drain and R9-C1 junction at the values on the F3 schematic (3.5V and 21V respectively). Let the amp run for 1 hour make final adjustments. Remove "R5" potentiometer and measure resistance. Solder in real resistor for R5 of closest value I could make up from resistors on hand.

Just a pair of questions, Chas: did you add the pot with the 1 Ohm resistor in parallel? could you pkease link a proper 5W potentiometer? Thanks :cheers:
 
I’m getting closer to finishing my F3. One channel is operational and the second one is in place a wired. I just need to fire it up and adjust it. The 10ohm pot works very well, and I’m not sure if I will remove it. My only concern is that it is just being held in place with the wires. I would want to secure it better if I leave it in.
 
I’m using the 4U 400 Disspante chassis for the build. I used this chassis for another amp that I pulled the amps out of. It’s dual mono using 2 project16 CRC power supplies with two 50uF motor run caps on each supply.

Looking forward to getting it done and listening to it.

Once I get this done I can get back to the AD1862 DAC to figure out why it is not working. I have to focus on one project at a time.
 
@Peppennino,

This is the 5w pot listed for R5 adjustments:

026TB32R100B1A1 CTS Electronic Components | Mouser

Ops, didn't read the note on BOM! thanks, Vunce!

R5.jpg
 
I finally finished my F3. I left the pots in. I did not see a reason to remove them. It took the right channel awhile to settle and get 3.5v. I only did a quick listen on some inexpensive speakers in my work space, but the amp sounded very good. I was feeding the amp from a TB DAC and ACA+ pre. The Test points make measuring so much easier. These are great boards.
 

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Chas,

The holes worked perfectly. The pins on the adapter boards are a little tight, but fit. I was actually dry fitting the boards and had one of them reversed and the mounting holes did not align. It was then that I realized the LU1014 holes on the board were different, so that they would accommodate the adapter boards. Great job on them.

Vince,
I initially used wire (20 gauge solid core) to hold the pots in place, but that is not secure. I used some standoffs from the bottom plate and zip ties to secure them, so now they are nice and stable.
 
Hello all. I have a set of F3 boards from Chas on their way and Nautibuoy very kindly furnished me with some LU1014s.
I read hear more than once that the F3 may not be particularly well suited to 'conventional' speakers with a crossover. And I note the low damping factor, although I have no idea what influence the DF has to the sound of an amp.
Could someone please elaborate a bit on this, and ultimately would I be wasting my time and money building the F3 for my 2 ways and 2.5 ways.? I would need to invest in the meaty psu/ output caps and heatsinking even just for testing purposes. Maybe I could use some.48v SMPS to test.
Cheers!
 
Here are the suggestions for speakers from the F3 manual:

The F3 has enough damping factor (8) to work well with loudspeakers that mate
well with tube amplifiers in general, and it delivers good performance into 4 and 16
ohms also – see the distortion curves at the back of this manual. It is designed
around relatively high efficiency speakers and it particularly shines with those that
have 90 dB/watt sensitivity or greater, but you can hook it up to anything you like,
as long as you adjust your expectations as to how loud it will play.

I am building a set of Troels Faital 3WC 12" which I think will be a very good match. The F3 also sounded great in a biamp setup on my 3 way speakers driving the mid and tweeter - it did not do well driving the whole speaker which has approximately 2 ohm minimum impedance it was clipping at a very modest volume.

This doesn't answer all of your questions, hopefully others can fill in more from their experience.