"I could go on and on how audiphiles who do their own fair share of tweaking can get downright ornery to someone else who likes a tweak that they don't like, with name calling, cajoling, the like. What does it accomplish? Nothing positive.
Jack, I hope that you'll stay and contribute here. Alan has shown he can take flak from time-to-time, even from me, so I always know I can count on him. What I would like is for everyone to get back to the substance for what I started this thread - Dan Sweeney's article in the latest The Absolute Sound. Read it. Then let's talk about it!
And by the way, Dan Sweeney has discovered the same thing that I discovered, that the Bybee filters work well in conjunction with AC regeneration whether Accuphase (quite expensive) or PS Audio P300 already out. And then I would add to that the Symposium platforms and Rollerblocks that I use through out my system, as I have found that they do indeed lessen the effect of vibration on the audio and video signal, thereby further improving the signals.
Also, the article best explains how Jack Bybee's products accomplish the sonic and video improvements that I can't live without!
Bybee calls his devices quantum filters (Jack likes to actually call them purifiers when you talk with him personally). They are not electrical filters in the usual sense because they don't alter frequency response. Bybee's background is in high temperature superconductivity. His devices are not true superconductors, but they are supposedly more conductive than pure elemental silver at room termperature, a fact Mr.Sweeney could not confirm.
Bybee says his ceramic filters, like superconductors, only admit Cooper pairs and reject noise to a considerable extent, though not as effective as true superconductors.
Superconductors function by admitting what are known as "Cooper pairs" of electrons, named after Leon Cooper, one of the seminal theorists in the field of superconductivity.
Normally electrons repel one another, but Cooper pairs are flung together by specific mechanical resonances in the crystalline latice structures of superconducting materials. Such resonances are known as phonons or quantum noise, and they occur at low audio frequencies. In normal conductors, they rob energy from electrons and create heat and incidentally low level electrical noise resulting from random electron motions. In superconductors, they serve to create the Cooper pairs that transfer electrical energy through the crystalline lattice unobstructed and unimpeded. Within a superconductor, the phonon serves to arrange the electrons in an orderly succession of Cooper pairs rather than to generate random electron motion. Only Cooper pairs will be energized within a superconductor, and these pass AC signals noiselessly, while rejecting the noise that has accumulated previously from random electron motion.
Bybee states that he has sold such devices to the Navy for inclusion in sonar receivers; and that the technology has only recently been declassified, and industrial uses for the filters have yet to be developed.
Dan Sweeney steeped himself in the popular literature concerning quantum mechanics and superconductivity and discussed these subjects with Jack Bybee extensively, concluding that his expertise is unassailable.
An aside from the article: I have met Jack Bybee now several times, he is a real gentleman, and a little tidbit is Jack has been married to the same gal for fifty years.
I think Jack must have put himself through one of those Bybee filters cause look how stable his marriage has been. Maybe I'll try it?"
Dan.
Jack, I hope that you'll stay and contribute here. Alan has shown he can take flak from time-to-time, even from me, so I always know I can count on him. What I would like is for everyone to get back to the substance for what I started this thread - Dan Sweeney's article in the latest The Absolute Sound. Read it. Then let's talk about it!
And by the way, Dan Sweeney has discovered the same thing that I discovered, that the Bybee filters work well in conjunction with AC regeneration whether Accuphase (quite expensive) or PS Audio P300 already out. And then I would add to that the Symposium platforms and Rollerblocks that I use through out my system, as I have found that they do indeed lessen the effect of vibration on the audio and video signal, thereby further improving the signals.
Also, the article best explains how Jack Bybee's products accomplish the sonic and video improvements that I can't live without!
Bybee calls his devices quantum filters (Jack likes to actually call them purifiers when you talk with him personally). They are not electrical filters in the usual sense because they don't alter frequency response. Bybee's background is in high temperature superconductivity. His devices are not true superconductors, but they are supposedly more conductive than pure elemental silver at room termperature, a fact Mr.Sweeney could not confirm.
Bybee says his ceramic filters, like superconductors, only admit Cooper pairs and reject noise to a considerable extent, though not as effective as true superconductors.
Superconductors function by admitting what are known as "Cooper pairs" of electrons, named after Leon Cooper, one of the seminal theorists in the field of superconductivity.
Normally electrons repel one another, but Cooper pairs are flung together by specific mechanical resonances in the crystalline latice structures of superconducting materials. Such resonances are known as phonons or quantum noise, and they occur at low audio frequencies. In normal conductors, they rob energy from electrons and create heat and incidentally low level electrical noise resulting from random electron motions. In superconductors, they serve to create the Cooper pairs that transfer electrical energy through the crystalline lattice unobstructed and unimpeded. Within a superconductor, the phonon serves to arrange the electrons in an orderly succession of Cooper pairs rather than to generate random electron motion. Only Cooper pairs will be energized within a superconductor, and these pass AC signals noiselessly, while rejecting the noise that has accumulated previously from random electron motion.
Bybee states that he has sold such devices to the Navy for inclusion in sonar receivers; and that the technology has only recently been declassified, and industrial uses for the filters have yet to be developed.
Dan Sweeney steeped himself in the popular literature concerning quantum mechanics and superconductivity and discussed these subjects with Jack Bybee extensively, concluding that his expertise is unassailable.
An aside from the article: I have met Jack Bybee now several times, he is a real gentleman, and a little tidbit is Jack has been married to the same gal for fifty years.
I think Jack must have put himself through one of those Bybee filters cause look how stable his marriage has been. Maybe I'll try it?"
Dan.
ffs - its come to this? Marital status adds to the validity of a claim?
REad it all back Max - Bybee calls... ..they are supposedly...Sweeney could nit confirm...Bybee says...Bybee states..
Not a single, independently verified fact. Not one..
Not even his marriage status.
REad it all back Max - Bybee calls... ..they are supposedly...Sweeney could nit confirm...Bybee says...Bybee states..
Not a single, independently verified fact. Not one..
Not even his marriage status.
aaaah - now I see why - its an almost complete c&p.
Good to see you iconoclasts stick together...
Absolute Sound luv PS Audio & Bybee
Good to see you iconoclasts stick together...
Absolute Sound luv PS Audio & Bybee
Yup, copy and paste, so what's so wrong with that.
Just snippets that I have not read elsewhere....likely other members here also.
Dan.
Just snippets that I have not read elsewhere....likely other members here also.
Dan.
you may like to critically read it after you c, and research the statements (or even sanity check them) before you p
Regardless of any theory statements or misstatements, have you ever actually tried incorporating any BQP's in your audio system ?.
Bybee - YouTube 😛
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Bybee - YouTube 😛
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nope - I also haven't fitted a magnetic polarising fuel economiser to my car, I don't have crystals in each room to enhance my mood and I don't refer to the horoscope before venturing outside.
Why would I fit something that has no technical data backing it - which relies for its marketing on misinterpretations of science and law and whose maker and advocates make in-system performance claims that vary from absurd to ludicrous (and which suspiciously align with the claims made for a number of other similarly fruadulent devices like cable risers, Cd pens and harmonically tuned feet)?
Honest to God, I am pretty sure that if I marketed jelly crystals with an appropriate line in ******** there would be a queue of audiophiles claiming incredible sonic clarity and making statements like if you haven't tried them you are in no position to discuss them...
SY has repeatedly said, bring data. I back that 100%.
Why would I fit something that has no technical data backing it - which relies for its marketing on misinterpretations of science and law and whose maker and advocates make in-system performance claims that vary from absurd to ludicrous (and which suspiciously align with the claims made for a number of other similarly fruadulent devices like cable risers, Cd pens and harmonically tuned feet)?
Honest to God, I am pretty sure that if I marketed jelly crystals with an appropriate line in ******** there would be a queue of audiophiles claiming incredible sonic clarity and making statements like if you haven't tried them you are in no position to discuss them...
SY has repeatedly said, bring data. I back that 100%.
We all want data.
Subjective evaluations can help to define the testing required.
There is ample agreement that standard thd/n testing does not explain all.
Dan.
Subjective evaluations can help to define the testing required.
There is ample agreement that standard thd/n testing does not explain all.
Dan.
Dan, where did you get this quote? Did you write it, or did somebody else do it? I WILL SAY that it does a very good job at explaining Bybee purifiers, as far as I know and have been told about them. I am always stifled in trying to explain them well, myself. Some of what I know, or what I have heard, I'm never sure if I am 'going over the line' so to speak, and perhaps getting myself or Jack into trouble.
From my perspective, I think that this device used to be much more secret, even though it was probably first developed 40-50 years ago or so. Now it is in that 'grey' area, and SOME devices that Jack sells, can't be sold to just any country. On the other hand, some devices can. I heard Jack warn a customer about this, over lunch, just last week. Some of the devices are on some sort of government list.
I tried to point out something important about the RESISTOR shown in the larger Bybee device, but nobody completely got it. Let's just say, you can't easily buy that specific resistor, and if you could it would be VERY expensive.
Of course, there is confusion with the OTHER Bybee device that does something similar, but uses a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT resistor, and in this case, apparently the resistor is the main active agent. This is the type that SY tried, and has carbon attached to it in some serious way, but I might be saying too much.
In any case, there are a number of audiophiles, like me, who find them interesting, and worth experimenting with, AS LONG as you have the highest quality audio reproduction equipment, already. I have found them to work with computer monitor amp-speakers, but they are far too expensive to put them on a cheap system, unless you just have them around for some reason, like I do.
From my perspective, I think that this device used to be much more secret, even though it was probably first developed 40-50 years ago or so. Now it is in that 'grey' area, and SOME devices that Jack sells, can't be sold to just any country. On the other hand, some devices can. I heard Jack warn a customer about this, over lunch, just last week. Some of the devices are on some sort of government list.
I tried to point out something important about the RESISTOR shown in the larger Bybee device, but nobody completely got it. Let's just say, you can't easily buy that specific resistor, and if you could it would be VERY expensive.
Of course, there is confusion with the OTHER Bybee device that does something similar, but uses a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT resistor, and in this case, apparently the resistor is the main active agent. This is the type that SY tried, and has carbon attached to it in some serious way, but I might be saying too much.
In any case, there are a number of audiophiles, like me, who find them interesting, and worth experimenting with, AS LONG as you have the highest quality audio reproduction equipment, already. I have found them to work with computer monitor amp-speakers, but they are far too expensive to put them on a cheap system, unless you just have them around for some reason, like I do.
OK, still no data and no DBT, just cut and paste of astoundingly ignorant twaddle.
Does ANYONE have anything substantive and on-topic?
Does ANYONE have anything substantive and on-topic?
Actually, I did that for fun. Dan and a few others fell for it completely. In frauds like this, what you're really selling is the story.
The corollary is that if you actually DO test the claim, and the fraud performs like, well, a fraud, it just shows how inadequate that "conventional" test methods are. Sagan's "Dragon in the garage."
Of course, nothing is complete without hauling out the most battered of strawmen.
What a load of twaddle, I don't know anyone I have talked to in the Industrial sector (or the real world of electronics outside of esoteric audio) who has not had serious misgivings about the garbage sprouted about these resistors coated in an enigma. (Quite often indicated as a loud guffaw) And people who work in the real world of electronics will not buy components on just marketing blurb, they want measurements and figures so they can design the part in.
What I have noticed over the years is slight modifications to the rhetoric and marketing, changing it slightly, probably as a results of the ribbing the device gets on DIYAudio.
Now its recently been de-classified, but not before it was put on public sale, that alone points to a load of bull. This must be recent as the last BS I read from the site mentioned it still being used in classified equipment.
Why has Bybee produced no measurements for the devices? He will have to, to sell to loess gullible customers than Audiophiles.
The fraud continues.......
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What a load of bull, you have never worked on restricted projects, some sort of government list....I have mentioned it before, but so you can trot away and Google it look up ITAR. You make it all sound like a joke, here's a Bybee but don't sell it to any country not covered by ITAR, and even if it was on the list you would have to get an export order.
Oh this gets better all the time.....
discussed here and on numerous other threads, its a beryllium oxide resistors:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/ever...uantum-purifier-measurement-analysis-124.html
And here is a link with a bit more info on such resistors....
Aluminum Nitride vs. Beryllium Oxide for High Power Resistor Products
Oh and JC how could you get JB in trouble by saying to much, alluring to the top secret, grey area, recently declassified don't sell to certain countries Bybee Quantum Fraudinator...
How many here listen to music, primarily, and how many are interested in technology, primarily?
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The two are not mutually exclusive, in fact if you are interested in engineering the best possible playback system, then an understanding of technology is a necessity.
Beat me to it SY.
Of course if you are going to design a super dooper quantum based room temperature super-conducting noise purification device, that cant be differentiated from a resistor by measurement, then some understanding of technology would be a bit of a bonus, I would have thought.
A technology so advanced, I may add, that we mere mortals can not understand or discern it operation as it transcends known physics.
A technology so advanced, I may add, that we mere mortals can not understand or discern it operation as it transcends known physics.
How can it possibly be super-conducting if it behaves like a resistor?
One would have thought it would behave like anything BUT a resistor. Superconductors are not usually supposed to increase resistance.
One would have thought it would behave like anything BUT a resistor. Superconductors are not usually supposed to increase resistance.
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