Not the same, no. Puffery is a well-known concept. It is different than fraud. If I tell you that Bear Whiz Beer is the finest lager made on Earth, when it tastes pretty much like Budweiser, that's puffery. If I tell you that it cures cancer because of the energy rays that it emits, that's fraud.
A free-range egg may still have been laid in captivity, but at least it's an egg (for now)
Sy got us into a Catch 22 situation with this one because Budweiser* tastes pretty much like bear whiz.
*the one marketed as 'genuine', not the real one actually made in Budweis/Budovice.
I will take your word for that! 🙂
And how did you come to taste bear whiz?
Have you done a double blind test?
Does the taste vey with the species, diet or time of year etc?
I worked in the R&D department of a company that made industrial tire uniformity testing machines.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
The 1 meter diameter load wheels were stored outside, often for many months before tight tolerance machining. Then a new management team came in with just-in-time component delivery. The new load wheels wouldn't maintain their tight tolerance diameter after delivery.
Kevin, good input. I first saw this in action at LINN back in 1976. Ivor stored partially machined turntable flywheels in a hallway for months at a time. Break-in? You bet! People often overlook 'practical wisdom' for higher return. This is why we have so much 'junk' that looks pretty, but breaks down so quickly. (at least one good reason)
Blanks for telescope mirrors are annealed for years before grinding, for good reasons. Why use the term "break-in" which ends up being simply applied mindlessly to everything in audio?
Where do you draw the line ? I speak of a modern outsourced product that
bought out the name of an old trusted brand.
The consumer thinks the new product is of the same quality because he/she
remembers the attributes of the "trusted brand".
I agree it is fraudulent to sell 1K$ audio cables siting quasi science babble.
Preying on ignorance to make a buck.
But this is what my example also does.
"Puffery" is great for food. Cheese from holy cows might taste better
if I have that warm feeling that the cows were treated with dignity. 😀
I can feel good and pay more at the same time.
Then there is the "Walmart" syndrome. You buy supposed durable items
that end up in the landfill after a few uses. The "puffery" does not
mention that this as true ? Sometimes the fine print on the product
will mention certain "useability" restrictions. So , can fraud be the
reverse ... by NOT mentioning certain (important) attributes.
"Truth in advertising " - " this will last a week" -
"you need to repurchase this 52 times a year" . Wishful thinking.
OS
What the applicable laws say. As a business guy (and for a mega-corporation), I never even get close to the edge of that- the claims for my products have a ton of factual support.
You don't get it Scott.
1 - 'break in' is good for telescope mirrors;
2 - I dabble in audio;
3 - therefor, break in is good for audio.
😎
Jan
"A talented con man does not waste his time trying to convince knowledgeable skeptics. His job is to keep the true believers believing. He is not going to convince the others anyway."
Last night I heard a radio program featuring people talking about 'ghosts' and living in the houses that the ghosts haunted. Made sense to me, but I cannot PROVE what they say. Break-in is a subjective experience and it cannot be PROVEN, by usual measurements or double blind tests. Too bad, but I operate by taking in everything, even when it might be a criticism of my own designs, in order to take action to minimize any compromise.
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