...Maybe could turn my Cyndi Lauper CDs into Diana Krall.
Dear God, that's just... depressing.
-- Jim
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M. Gregg
There is plenty out there on cryo treatment, but for electronics and cables its all audio based....
Now either audio is the cutting edge of electronics, materials and physics research or just somewhere where the kooky and strange can be sold to the participants....
In another forum I frequent, the same kind of language is used by proponents of "energy healing", such as Reiki, and makes as much sense.
I had a Reiki "expert" here recently. I was delighted to find that she knew it was utter nonsense, but was happy to make money writing about it, since this was part of the belief system of the customers for her actual product (yoga instruction). "If I didn't put that BS in the course materials and act like I take it seriously, I lose most of my audience. This is the stuff they believe and want to hear about."
Seems eerily familiar...
or just somewhere where the kooky and strange can be sold to the participants....
Well the Kooky and strange seems to have the edge..😀
You only have to look at this tread and the number of posts to add weight to the statement! (Its esoteric)<<whatever that means but its not high end without it..
Here is my analogy (esoteric = talking point)
Well this system is fitted with banana relays..really wow I guess "Rathbone metal-banger" fit those to all esoteric high end equipment..

They have Cryo treated the circuit boards as well they buried them with seal carcasses from the drastic period under a glassier for 10 years.
WOOOHHooo the Bybe was an optional extra..😀
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M. Gregg
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But how 'it makes a race engine more powerful' can be extrapolated to 'it makes my music sound better' I do not understand.
At least in the case of BMW it did not make the engine more powerful, it made it more likely that the engine block would survive high-pressure turbo charging without cracking.
I have been told that in the past Rolls Royce left engine block castings outside in the weather for 12 years to allow thermal cycling and stabilisation before final machining/boring.
Dan.
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He Who Laughs Last Laughs Longest....
Dan.
LOL.wow Max has managed to upgrade the old 'wife in kitchen' gag to 'Axl in the stadium'
Dan.
At least in the case of BMW it did not make the engine more powerful, it made it more likely that the engine block would survive high-pressure turbo charging without cracking.
Well yes. Even then it was touch and go if the quali engines would manage a full lap at 1400ish BHP
I would not count economics as a science based subject, from my brief encounter with it when I was in the 6th form, it has no hard rules, you make them up as you go along and I could never work out where the baseline was, it seemed to be floating and depended on all the other factors... gave it up and did physics it was easier to understand🙂
AT MIT, economics is considered a humanity. Seriously! There is a minimum humanities requirement and micro and macro 14.01 and 14.02 will satisfy that.
It does to me, in so many ways. Does solid engineering or science need a layer of BS frosting to sell?Seems eerily familiar...
Having sold product and worked a few audio shows, I quickly learned what people want to hear, and what they don't. Real facts are boring.
Just like with cars, audio equipment requires both good engineering and marketing. I don't like to do marketing, but it is a necessary ingredient to getting enough sales to make a successful living in audio. You can't take marketing too seriously, but I rarely find outright lies in it.
I think it isn't outright lies that are an issue, but the subtle or camouflaged lies that are, or can be.
Pano asks a good question. I don't have an answer. I would like to think that eventually it sells itself. "Eventually," though, seems uselessly vague.
Pano asks a good question. I don't have an answer. I would like to think that eventually it sells itself. "Eventually," though, seems uselessly vague.
I think it isn't outright lies that are an issue
They certainly are for me. But I have a different set of ethical standards than the people peddling and promoting this stuff.
I'm still blown away by the concept of besmirching the reputations of great and honest researchers for fun and profit. What kind of horrible and twisted set of morals would allow someone to do that and still live with himself?
They certainly are for me. But I have a different set of ethical standards than the people peddling and promoting this stuff.
I'm still blown away by the concept of besmirching the reputations of great and honest researchers for fun and profit. What kind of horrible and twisted set of morals would allow someone to do that and still live with himself?
Have you ever watched Faux Snooze?
Mike
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This has always confused me and not got to the bottom of it. Serious scientist, much good research and a fair bit of controversy in his old age peddling custom vitamin supplements when its well known that a balanced diet works for 90+% of us.
This has always confused me and not got to the bottom of it. Serious scientist, much good research and a fair bit of controversy in his old age peddling custom vitamin supplements when its well known that a balanced diet works for 90+% of us.
Yes, SY, I agree it is outrageous behavior. I probably used a definition of outright lie that was gratuitously too narrow.
The behavior SY speaks of is the foundation of the modern corporate
business model.
Marketing tells you that most products are "the best there is" , when
actually they are outsourced disposable junk propped up by the lies
of famous sponsors.
I remember , this type of marketing started soon after the start of the
cable TV era. Those born after this era are predisposed to accept
everything as disposable junk and NOT to expect quality.
Only those born before this era can truly see the contrast.
Edit - It's not currently illegal to lie about a product as long as you hide the real truth
deep in the small print.
OS
business model.
Marketing tells you that most products are "the best there is" , when
actually they are outsourced disposable junk propped up by the lies
of famous sponsors.
I remember , this type of marketing started soon after the start of the
cable TV era. Those born after this era are predisposed to accept
everything as disposable junk and NOT to expect quality.
Only those born before this era can truly see the contrast.
Edit - It's not currently illegal to lie about a product as long as you hide the real truth
deep in the small print.
OS
I'm a tad younger than the greybeards on this site but having had a Mother born in the 30s and lived on a farm through rationing the 'make do and mend' mentality is very hard to break.
Heck I even repaired the LCD TV by replacing the panel. Thanks to the fact that there are only really 2 or 3 LCD manufacturers left there turns out to be a lot of commonality. luckily at least in UK you can complain about fraudulent ads and sometimes something gets done (Russ andrews springs to mind)
Heck I even repaired the LCD TV by replacing the panel. Thanks to the fact that there are only really 2 or 3 LCD manufacturers left there turns out to be a lot of commonality. luckily at least in UK you can complain about fraudulent ads and sometimes something gets done (Russ andrews springs to mind)
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