That is around 14V DC on the filter cap I guess ? Knowing what current flows would help to determine a good solution. You have some excess voltage that probably causes more heat than absolutely necessary. Point is that 8V transformers are rare and 7V might be too low. I think you can get away (note: this is not really correct engineering) with a 7V 2A transformer but it would strongly depend on model and make. As long if you have 9.5 V DC at the filter cap as the absolute minimum (lower limit of ripple voltage) and an added margin of let's say 1V it will work OK but it is thinking outside the box and quite custom made in that case. Using an 8V transformer would be more in the right line of thinking 😉
I see this company has 8V transformers:
http://www.tme.eu/html/EN/toroidal-mains-transformers/ramka_774_EN_pelny.html
I see this company has 8V transformers:
http://www.tme.eu/html/EN/toroidal-mains-transformers/ramka_774_EN_pelny.html
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In this post it says 560mA:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/powe...-voltage-shunt-regulator-450.html#post2754650
But I´m going to drill a couple of 20mm holes in the top (at the end where it´s safe from the mains)and some smaller holes in the bottom.
I would guess the heatsink is about 35-40 degres C.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/powe...-voltage-shunt-regulator-450.html#post2754650
But I´m going to drill a couple of 20mm holes in the top (at the end where it´s safe from the mains)and some smaller holes in the bottom.
I would guess the heatsink is about 35-40 degres C.
In this post it says 560mA:
But I´m going to drill a couple of 20mm holes in the top (at the end where it´s safe from the mains)and some smaller holes in the bottom.
I would guess the heatsink is about 35-40 degrees C.
Ooohhhhhh....only 560 mA....just 35 to 40 degrees (measuring that would not be unwise)... Don't worry too much although less excess heat would be nice. You do need some ventilation holes with a (guesstimated) 3W dissipation. 20 mm holes seem a little large, you don't want anyone to put their fingers in them do you ? Aligning them will be difficult and also having exactly round holes will be nearly impossible in a plastic case. If you succeed we want pictures 🙂
Using a transformer with somewhat less output voltage would be best.
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That is around 14V DC on the filter cap I guess ? Point is that 8V transformers are rare and 7V might be too low.
Amplimo 17061: 2x115V or 230V<>7,5V 30VA
http://www.amplimo.nl/images/downloads/ds standardrange/17061.pdf
How could I forget our own Amplimo ? With 7,5V it should be possible but one would have to try it out. Since the PSU has a 10.000 µF filter cap ripple will be low at 0.6A. Maybe someone of you knows the internals of the Duet ? If it can live with less than 9V it would even be better. I guess it has 5V regs inside. If those are LDO regs too maybe 8V DC output is more than enough. This would depend on the specifications of the LDO's that are used. Since it is all out of my design values one would have to try this out. I never owned a Duet.
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Shame on you 😀How could I forget our own Amplimo ?
That's a lot! Did you measure the current when switching on the device?With 7,5V it should be possible but one would have to try it out. Since the PSU has a 10.000 µF filter cap ripple will be low at 0.6A.
Now I have messaured the temp with my DMM,with the top on and Duet in playback mode and 3 10mm holes both in the bottom and top the temp is 44 degres C.Maybe I am going to do some more ventholes in the top...
You should measure the voltage on the large filter cap. You can use the Ampere meter connector for a normal 5A diode with 0.7V Uforward (or even 2 in series). Best would be to adjust the transformer voltage to a somewhat lower value. Less excess voltage means less heat....but all should be within the margins of the regulator to function properly. Like keeping balance on a cord 😉
Please measure the voltage, that is decisive in finding an adequate solution.
Please measure the voltage, that is decisive in finding an adequate solution.
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Two 5A diodes in series at the Ampere meter connector would make a difference. I would choose a different transformer like the 7,5V Amplimo (and keep the output at 8.8V) but that's me. The 2 diode solution will help though (but it is cheating) 🙂
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Ok,I will see tomorrow if I have 2 5A diods to start with.(it´s getting late here in sweden now)Thanks. 🙂
I have a couple of: https://www.elfa.se/elfa3~se_sv/elfa/init.do?item=70-159-78&toc=0&q=70-159-78
But they seems to have 1,4v instead of 0,7v can I use them,1 or 2 in series?
But they seems to have 1,4v instead of 0,7v can I use them,1 or 2 in series?
Strange diode but indeed a Uforward of 1.4V. Try just one and check the difference both in input voltage of the regulator and the temperature.
I had to use 2 diods,and at the elyt the voltage is 13,4v and after the 2 diods 11,7v.
And the temp on the diods is....51 degrees C ....
And the regulaors heatsink is now ..35degrees C during playback.So it seems that whe are only moving the heat to the diods instead.
And the temp on the diods is....51 degrees C ....
And the regulaors heatsink is now ..35degrees C during playback.So it seems that whe are only moving the heat to the diods instead.
Yes we are cheating by just dividing heat/dissipation. I already told the best solution.
PS Output voltage should stay the same, that is the function of the reg 🙂
PS Output voltage should stay the same, that is the function of the reg 🙂
PS Output voltage should stay the same, that is the function of the reg
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Yeah I know.😉
I guess I am going to write to Toroidy.pl (I have ordered from them before)and ask the price for a 15 or 20VA toroid giving 7,5v under load,(I cant fit the Amplimo 17061: 2x115V or 230V<>7,5V 30VA in my box)
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