I actually have the Radian 475PB in my Hawthorne SSI 10"s and it sounds awesome, I bet you could get away with the Radian 465PB and the DDS CFD ENG 1-90 Pro horn.
The horn is a bit pricey, and you probably do not need full 90/90 degrees dispersion, 90/60 is probably enough. But I do not know what other horns to mention, unless you go for a coax setup, how is coax dispersion for PA considered?
The horn is a bit pricey, and you probably do not need full 90/90 degrees dispersion, 90/60 is probably enough. But I do not know what other horns to mention, unless you go for a coax setup, how is coax dispersion for PA considered?
Thanks for the links and info
How about mixing the compression driver + horn with some tweeters.
How about mixing the compression driver + horn with some tweeters.
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i wil sketch something tomorrow(this evening our national team plays for the european championship)
EPA can you draw the plan so that it is easy to understand.
Thanks for the links and info
How about mixing the compression driver + horn with some tweeters.
compression drivers(most of them)do not need a tweeter on top .
example the bms wil run from 1.2khz to 20khz or so..
i wil try to make the drawing easy.😉
compression drivers(most of them)do not need a tweeter on top .
example the bms wil run from 1.2khz to 20khz or so..
i wil try to make the drawing easy.😉
Ok i will. Thanks
Hi Nathenry,
I think you are on the right road now with a mid bass enclosure, and a compression driver / horn for the highs. Just make sure that they all match up in output capability and coverage angle. You will also have to get into how to drive all this, and which crossovers you need.
Regards,
I think you are on the right road now with a mid bass enclosure, and a compression driver / horn for the highs. Just make sure that they all match up in output capability and coverage angle. You will also have to get into how to drive all this, and which crossovers you need.
Regards,
Hi Nathenry,
If you're concerned about the cost, this one may work: Eminence PSD2002-8DIA - Eminence PSD:2002-8 1" Titanium Driver 8 Ohm 2/3-Bolt 290-442. Is anyone familiar with it, or has actually used it?
Or this one:http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-272 ?
And while we're fishing, a bit more expensive, but still cheap for a good compression driver: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-274?
Regards,
If you're concerned about the cost, this one may work: Eminence PSD2002-8DIA - Eminence PSD:2002-8 1" Titanium Driver 8 Ohm 2/3-Bolt 290-442. Is anyone familiar with it, or has actually used it?
Or this one:http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-272 ?
And while we're fishing, a bit more expensive, but still cheap for a good compression driver: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-274?
Regards,
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Hi Nathenry,
I think you are on the right road now with a mid bass enclosure, and a compression driver / horn for the highs. Just make sure that they all match up in output capability and coverage angle. You will also have to get into how to drive all this, and which crossovers you need.
Regards,
Oliver
For crossover we will be using the dcx2496 ultra pro
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The last link don't work.Hi Nathenry,
If you're concerned about the cost, this one may work: Eminence PSD2002-8DIA - Eminence PSD:2002-8 1" Titanium Driver 8 Ohm 2/3-Bolt 290-442. Is anyone familiar with it, or has actually used it?
Or this one:Selenium D220Ti-16 1" Titanium Horn Driver 16 Ohm 1-3/8"-18 264-272 ?
And while we're fishing, a bit more expensive, but still cheap for a good compression driver: Parts Express
Regards,
order list
2 beta 12 driver
2 compression driver
Which horn should I used with the compression driver.
Also if I am missing anything from the list feel free to add it on
2 beta 12 driver
2 compression driver
Which horn should I used with the compression driver.
Also if I am missing anything from the list feel free to add it on
Post #147
Maybe the question mark at the end confuses the Parts-Express website, here is the link again: Selenium D2500Ti-Nd-8 1" Titanium Horn Driver 8 Ohm 1-3/8-18 264-274
and one horn candidate: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?PartNumber=264-312
Regards,
Maybe the question mark at the end confuses the Parts-Express website, here is the link again: Selenium D2500Ti-Nd-8 1" Titanium Horn Driver 8 Ohm 1-3/8-18 264-274
and one horn candidate: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?PartNumber=264-312
Regards,
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I have only read great things about that last compression driver, tb46. And that waveguide is classy. 😀
What an exciting and inspiring thread! DIYAudio is a great place.
Your surprise gift is a splendid one, Nathenry. Your husband will be more than thrilled, I'm sure. Cheers!
What an exciting and inspiring thread! DIYAudio is a great place.
Your surprise gift is a splendid one, Nathenry. Your husband will be more than thrilled, I'm sure. Cheers!
oliver
the drivers sugested cannot be crossed that low.the last one 2 khz minimun.
whe need 1~1.2 khz.
the drivers sugested cannot be crossed that low.the last one 2 khz minimun.
whe need 1~1.2 khz.
Hi epa,
Post #153: "...whe need 1~1.2 khz."
I'm going on the assumption, that you know a lot more about PA then I'm interested to learn, but why that response limitation, looking at the Wave Front Simulator in Hornresp even 3kHz seems to be possible. By the way, you haven't answered my question as to the driver throat compression ratio, and are you sure, that this mid horn/driver combination will stay with the 18TBX100?
As to the horn drivers, e.g.: from the manufacturer's data sheet for the D2500Ti-Nd: "Musical Program (w/ xover 1,500Hz 12dB/oct)...120 W", and "Musical Program= 2x W RMS." Also, the on horn sensitivity is rated @ 111 dB/2.83V@1m.
Regards,
Regards,
Post #153: "...whe need 1~1.2 khz."
I'm going on the assumption, that you know a lot more about PA then I'm interested to learn, but why that response limitation, looking at the Wave Front Simulator in Hornresp even 3kHz seems to be possible. By the way, you haven't answered my question as to the driver throat compression ratio, and are you sure, that this mid horn/driver combination will stay with the 18TBX100?
As to the horn drivers, e.g.: from the manufacturer's data sheet for the D2500Ti-Nd: "Musical Program (w/ xover 1,500Hz 12dB/oct)...120 W", and "Musical Program= 2x W RMS." Also, the on horn sensitivity is rated @ 111 dB/2.83V@1m.
Regards,
Regards,
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hi oliver
you question was answered here (so many posts🙄)
yes the wavefront sym shows it could be done higher,but the horn doesnt ad efficientie from say 1 khz.
@1.2 khz its already 5 db down(the eminence has a rising responce from 700 til 1500 so that wil help)
the dayton could be used with some eq-ing from 1 to 1.5 khz if it becomes to expencive.
sensivity could be adjusted using an l-pad(resistors serie/paralel)when going pasive.
you question was answered here (so many posts🙄)
yes the wavefront sym shows it could be done higher,but the horn doesnt ad efficientie from say 1 khz.
@1.2 khz its already 5 db down(the eminence has a rising responce from 700 til 1500 so that wil help)
the dayton could be used with some eq-ing from 1 to 1.5 khz if it becomes to expencive.
sensivity could be adjusted using an l-pad(resistors serie/paralel)when going pasive.
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Hi epa,
My main concern was the driver throat compression ratio, if that was answered anywhere, I jut cannot see it.
Regards,
My main concern was the driver throat compression ratio, if that was answered anywhere, I jut cannot see it.
Regards,
you are woried about the driver destroying the cone due to a high compression ratio?
vd @ 50 volts crossed @150hz wil be ~0,107 ltr.
or do you mean something else?
vd @ 50 volts crossed @150hz wil be ~0,107 ltr.
or do you mean something else?
Hi epa,
Post #157: "you are woried about the driver destroying the cone due to a high compression ratio?"
Yes, that's mainly what I'm worried about. ( Typically, I have seen this driver with much lower throat compression ratios, e.g.: starting @ Post #257: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/subwoofers/170771-single-sheet-th-challenge-26.html (I do realize, that jbell is using this enclosure down to 100Hz.))
The other concern of mine is that I don't know how that compression ratio will affect the sound quality.
Just trying to learn something.
Regards,
Post #157: "you are woried about the driver destroying the cone due to a high compression ratio?"
Yes, that's mainly what I'm worried about. ( Typically, I have seen this driver with much lower throat compression ratios, e.g.: starting @ Post #257: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/subwoofers/170771-single-sheet-th-challenge-26.html (I do realize, that jbell is using this enclosure down to 100Hz.))
The other concern of mine is that I don't know how that compression ratio will affect the sound quality.
Just trying to learn something.
Regards,
It wouldnt hurt to also read this. http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/213123-why-2nd-order-best-not.html
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