Pretty much all Arjen Helder (ebay seller) Class D amps that many recommend here as being better sounding amps of that type use the "audiophiler" caps. Perhaps they need to revisit their assessment.
Good point - the amp I was testing was one of his linestages. Quite a simple, yet decent design. Problem with a simple design is that the passive components are of key importance. Certainly I was happy to swap these "audiophiler" caps for something a little more expensive. But you wouldn't want to spend more than 10% of the cost of an amp on capacitors, right?
unfortunately, your brain is not so good like a tape recorder at playing back music...
it never interpret the same event in the same vein twice in a row...
there are factors that interplay....like expectations, positive or negative...
state of physical well being......moods.....you know...
so i would just enjoy each event best i can...
it never interpret the same event in the same vein twice in a row...
there are factors that interplay....like expectations, positive or negative...
state of physical well being......moods.....you know...
so i would just enjoy each event best i can...
Good point...the only presumption being that the listener has a brain. In the case of yours truly...that's disputable 🙄
Humble Homemade Hifi
I find that this is a useful and unbiased review of a huge range of caps many made especially for audio.
I find that this is a useful and unbiased review of a huge range of caps many made especially for audio.
Good point...the only presumption being that the listener has a brain. In the case of yours truly...that's disputable 🙄
every person alive have a brain, the only question is how is your brain lying to you compared to mine.....
that is why when someone says in the forum, i heard this, i heard that, i take it as entertainment, no probative value to me whatsoever....
Humble Homemade Hifi
I find that this is a useful and unbiased review of a huge range of caps many made especially for audio.
as long as he says, "subjective review", i have no problem with what he claims...
every person alive have a brain, the only question is how is your brain lying to you compared to mine.....
that is why when someone says in the forum, i heard this, i heard that, i take it as entertainment, no probative value to me whatsoever....
Fair point, though one must always remember there is little value in either being completely objective or entirely subjective. One is science, the other is a dark art - everyone has to strike a happy medium, usually a combination of budget and auditory aesthetics....
Fair point, though one must always remember there is little value in either being completely objective or entirely subjective. One is science, the other is a dark art - everyone has to strike a happy medium, usually a combination of budget and auditory aesthetics....
yes, i agree, i am one diy'er who does not rely heavily on caps in my build, i would like to avoid them where i can, and i f i can not, i chose technology instead of brands....
if i can hear a difference, i will not go around telling folks in forums, my hearing any differences are not a proof of anything as far as i am concerned....😀
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if i can hear a difference, i will not go around telling folks in forums, my hearing any differences are not a proof of anything as far as i am concerned....😀
I assume the degree to which you enjoy listening to music is also not a proof of anything. Yet, it may be there, regardless of whether it's being proved, or not.
Recently swapping out 4 1uF Audiophiler Caps for Obligatory Golds in a Little Bear Line Amp.
Maybe circuit suitability or some other reason, but in my subjective opinion so far I have found the Thicker Darker sound of the Upgrade Capacitor have changed the sound for the worse.
Before changing out I was very impressed with the ability of the preamp to convey space, timbre and definition, since replacing sound is definitely fuller and richer but articulation as disappeared and the enthusiasm I had for pulling out long lost gems to rediscovered from my music collection as gone.
Still persevering with Oblis for the time being, but as I presume the Audiophilers were as new when I first started using preamp, not sure persevering with burn in period(40 hrs so far) will improve sound.
Purely my subjective opinion.
Maybe circuit suitability or some other reason, but in my subjective opinion so far I have found the Thicker Darker sound of the Upgrade Capacitor have changed the sound for the worse.
Before changing out I was very impressed with the ability of the preamp to convey space, timbre and definition, since replacing sound is definitely fuller and richer but articulation as disappeared and the enthusiasm I had for pulling out long lost gems to rediscovered from my music collection as gone.
Still persevering with Oblis for the time being, but as I presume the Audiophilers were as new when I first started using preamp, not sure persevering with burn in period(40 hrs so far) will improve sound.
Purely my subjective opinion.
Some good articles about capacitors
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2610442/capacitor-sound
Picking Capacitors
cables https://passlabs.com/articles/speaker-cables-science-or-snake-oil
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2610442/capacitor-sound
Picking Capacitors
cables https://passlabs.com/articles/speaker-cables-science-or-snake-oil
If Walt Jung was so smart, how come he did not figure out the widely held "Burn In" capacitor deficiency ?
I bought 4 of those Audiophiler's and, after months of trials, I find Wima MKP 10, similar price range, sounds better.
BTW I was reading thread all the way from first post and I must say that I really like comparisons like Audiophiler $2 and xxx $30 cap where second sound better. NO SHT! Really? Its price is 20 times the first, how odd is that it sounds better?
If you are about to compare, compare same type caps with similar price tag. Any comparison between something that cost 1 and something that cost 20 times more is, at least, stupid. Like a car for $10k and $200k where that for $200k is much much better. Really?
Audiophiler did good with red color and gold letters with "AUDIO" inscription, but, although it is MKP (at least its written there🙂 its not that good for high end audio.
There is one simple rule - cheap parts are never good, but expensive can be bad.
BTW I was reading thread all the way from first post and I must say that I really like comparisons like Audiophiler $2 and xxx $30 cap where second sound better. NO SHT! Really? Its price is 20 times the first, how odd is that it sounds better?
If you are about to compare, compare same type caps with similar price tag. Any comparison between something that cost 1 and something that cost 20 times more is, at least, stupid. Like a car for $10k and $200k where that for $200k is much much better. Really?
Audiophiler did good with red color and gold letters with "AUDIO" inscription, but, although it is MKP (at least its written there🙂 its not that good for high end audio.
There is one simple rule - cheap parts are never good, but expensive can be bad.
I can't think of any good reason why a $30 cap should sound better than a $2 cap, provided that the $2 cap was the appropriate value and dielectric technology for that particular point in the circuit. 15 times more cost does not necessarily buy you anything, apart from a warm glow inside for both you and the vendor.
That's the requirement, precisely................. provided that the $2 cap was the appropriate value and dielectric technology for that particular point in the circuit...................
Select a capacitor (or any component) to suit the duty it will have to operate in/under.
And if you both read what I wrote (complete post, please) you will see
There is one simple rule - cheap parts are never good, but expensive can be bad.
There is one simple rule - cheap parts are never good, but expensive can be bad.
Prove it............... cheap parts are never good,...........
Maybe what you could have said was:
bad parts that don't meet specification are never good.
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