A how to for a PC XO.

[mjensen]

Hi Matt,

By default Console opens all channels of your soundcard.

Do this

In Console click "Audio" on toolbar or File/Preferences in the menu and click on the Audio Device tab.

Then click Channel button and in the new window only select the channels Console should use.

Green check marks for active channels and red exclamation marks for inactive

 

[matt09]

Thanks so much I spent many evenings messing around with that and to think that's all it was...

Does anyone know of a Windows asio driver, I spent a while looking but wasn't able to find anything. By this I mean in the Windows sound settings choosing an asio output rather than direct sound driver or RME physical outputs.

This would be really useful for things like youtube and generally would save having to look for software specific asio plugins.

I'm sure its pretty easy to see what i mean.

Cheers

EDIT: The audio keeps cutting out even with a foobar buffer of 7000ms and RME buffer of 23ms?

 

[Telstar]

Does anyone know of a Windows asio driver, I spent a while looking but wasn't able to find anything. By this I mean in the Windows sound settings choosing an asio output rather than direct sound driver or RME physical outputs.

This would be really useful for things like youtube and generally would save having to look for software specific asio plugins.

I'm sure its pretty easy to see what i mean.

Yes, but i think it doesnt exist. It would be nice for youtube.

EDIT: The audio keeps cutting out even with a foobar buffer of 7000ms and RME buffer of 23ms?

Check for newer drivers of your soundcard. RME drivers have the reputation of being very good. Ask also on their support forums. Thiss shouldnt be happening with a rme card.

 

[mattpwill]

Thanks so much I spent many evenings messing around with that and to think that's all it was...

Does anyone know of a Windows asio driver, I spent a while looking but wasn't able to find anything. By this I mean in the Windows sound settings choosing an asio output rather than direct sound driver or RME physical outputs.

This would be really useful for things like youtube and generally would save having to look for software specific asio plugins.

I'm sure its pretty easy to see what i mean.

Cheers

EDIT: The audio keeps cutting out even with a foobar buffer of 7000ms and RME buffer of 23ms?

You can achieve this either by using a sound card with routing built into the drivers or by using Virtual Audio Cable (set this to default device in Windows) and ASIO4ALL in the VST host

 

[matt09]

Ah ok I read about 20 pages of this thread and gave up, I wondered if someone had posted one already. (the driver)

I'm hoping it was caused by other software running in the background but if it doesnt stop I'll have to look into it. What kind of buffer levels for RME and Foobar are people using here stably?

Also I know it was probably mentioned on some pages but I dont understand how DRC with a microphone works when surely you would be calibrating to the microphone response? The microphone I have is an Sm57 which I know certainly doesn't have a flat response in the bass region.

Thanks 🙂

 

[fb]

matt09

You can use the loopback feature within RME Totalmix to achieve what you want - it's not possible to use 'ASIO ouputs' from the windows mixer. Just make your windows default audio device an output pair that you're not otherwise using. Then loop those channels back - they'll end up in the corresponding inputs. You can then route those inputs where you wish, including to your ASIO based processing host/plugins.

For your dropout problem, check your DPC latency, and check the RME forums for help. There are unfortunately many different possible issues that can cause dropouts.

 

[matt09]

Ah yes that's a pretty obvious solution thanks 😉

If anyone could explain the mic DRC it would be great i still can't see how tuning response to that of the microphone achieves a flat room response in your speakers.

 

[fb]

For some mics there are calibration files. A popular cheap one is the Behringer ECM8000.

 

[matt09]

Does anyone know of a page with calibration files for common mics, the ECM8000 is the only mic I've found a file for but I was hoping to use other Behringer mics I can borrow if possible. I've looked on google etc but haven't found anything.

Thanks

 

[fb]

You need to use a mic designed for frequency response measurements. 🙂

 

[matt09]

I realise this but surley ECM8000 isnt the only mic with a calibration file?

 

[doug20]

Would a M-audio Delta 44 work?

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta44.html

I have one that Im using to do multi-room music distribution but I want to test if this PC XO is better then my DCX 2496.

 

[Digi]

Would a M-audio Delta 44 work?

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Delta44.html

I have one that Im using to do multi-room music distribution but I want to test if this PC XO is better then my DCX 2496.

Yes, it will work just fine. Do you have any idea which software you will use to perform the XO function?

Rob

 

[Frode]

I'm trying out a secondhand Emu 1616M Carbus soundcard now. It seems like the Cardbus works alright, but I can't get any contact with the Microdock. I've attached a picture from PatchMix. Is there some kind of trick to make the connection to the Microdock?

Frode

 

[aluaudio]

Patchmix, like most of the other full featured mixers out there, can initial appear complicated. Its not however.

You need to create 3 x 2 channel input strips using windows wave as the source, these will 1/2, 3/4, 5/6 and enable multichannel playback over windows sources.

Next you create however many ASIO outputs as you require. This could 4 for a total of 8 channels for example. For each of these you need to assign a physical out using the 'SEND' functionality.

I've attached a 44Khz patchmix session that does what I'm describing. Take a look at what options and strips have been added then try to understand the signal routing. Pretty soon everything will become clear.

I know that you posted this months ago... But I suspect that I can get help with my issue here.

I'm using Patchmix myself (emu 1820), but there is something that I have problems to understand: How can I route the signal to a convolver - and back - by using the Patchmix?

I'm using J River MC as my source, and up intil now I use DirectX host (and now VST host) to host DirectX/Convolver VSTs, but this is definetively not and optimal solution due to only audio files supported, switching between tracks are not very smooth, the configuration is lost when restarting J River.

I would rather insert the convolver later in the signal chain, and since I'm using Patchmix, this might be the right thing to use? Or mabye not..?

 

[_Dejan_]

Hi guys,

Im new here and I need little help with chosing right VST plugin for my audio system.
I building 3-way(2Way front stereo + sub) car audio system with carpc.
Sound card I have(HT Omega - Claro Halo XT). I use AudioMulch as VST host and need one or more plugins to do crossovers, EQ and Time Aligment.
I have full active system so each speaker have own output from amp. Distances from speaker to listner are NOT same so TA&EQ must be done on each speaker seperate and not for Left&Right together...

Im Try Electri-Q for EQ and XO and looks good but I must use for each speaker own plugin. For TA Im try Voxengo Sound Delay and looks very good...

Im read in this thread about "Room Correction plugin" will be this useable in my car?
At home I have ECM8000 mic. and MXL USB Mic Mate(Phantom power) so this can be used for mesaurement...
Is maybe avalible any plugin where you setup for example what speakers do you have for example 2way stereo + SUB and then it mesaure all spekars(seperate) and see in graph responses and automatic set best XO, EQ and TA? Or maybe external application which make settings for plugin which then use all data in one instance of plugin?
I think that carpc is powerfull enought for handle this...
Spec:
CPU: Intel P8400 (2x2.26GHz)
MB: Jetway NF-93LF
RAM: 2GB DDR2 800 SODIMM
SSD: Intel 80GB X25M
AudioCard: HT Omega Claro Halo XT

Thanks for any help.

Best regards, _Dejan_

 

[fb]

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/arc/features/

It's really expensive though, and I don't think it would do the crossovers for you - you'd have to use additional VSTs after it.

Something like Acourate or Audiolense may help you the most, or try the software here http://www.ohl.to/

 

[tritosine]

that ARC thing is so boutique I wouldnt even try the demo (if there was) . Acourate is nice though, especially if you need more than 2 ways, but 2way only is nice diy stuff.

The software by Hypex can also be tried without the HW, very nice professional GUI.

 

[_Dejan_]

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/arc/features/

It's really expensive though, and I don't think it would do the crossovers for you - you'd have to use additional VSTs after it.

Something like Acourate or Audiolense may help you the most, or try the software here http://www.ohl.to/

As I understand whole thing I need Convolver VST plugin in my VST host and one application which make one filter file for Convolver.
In this file are included crossowers, eq and other things, right?

If I use external crossover there is additional delay(If I remember with Linear phase crossovers Im get around 170ms delay)...

Im look DRCUi but is not user friendly, I don't see any crossover option, you only put files into it and then it something work ...

As I know ARC work only with ARC mic. Or Im wrong?

that ARC thing is so boutique I wouldnt even try the demo (if there was) . Acourate is nice though, especially if you need more than 2 ways, but 2way only is nice diy stuff.

The software by Hypex can also be tried without the HW, very nice professional GUI.

I will try Acourate Trial and see if this is what I need.
I need correction for front stereo 2way system + sub. Diferent distance for tw(On dash) and diferent for mid(In doors) and sub in boot...
Electri-Q is very simple to make crossovers, just few clicks and you have crossovers and see it on graph...

Do you have any link for Hypex?

 

[jlo]

Im look DRCUi but is not user friendly, I don't see any crossover option, you only put files into it and then it something work ...

to have filters, you can try crossvolver. It integrates 4 stereo convolvers so you can use it for 4 ways speakers.
Maybe I should add another convolver just before the filters to do the DRC correction. For now you can use align to measure and calculate the correction.

Some work (when I'll have some time), a soft that would do :
- filter calculation
- apply filters on convolvers
- measure with filters and calculate DRC curve
- apply DRC + filters on convolvers
and it should be quick and simple to use ! 🙂