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845/211 driver circuits

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I have made before two amps with 6e5p ccs low Z driving the 6c33 and other driving the 211, but the 2a3 driving the 211 is too much better. The space felling is wonderful.
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One of the best driver you can use is the Alan Kimmel choke coupled MuStage. Look up the last two issues of VTV magazine on it..


See here for the first (all?) 20 editions.

Issue 9 is also of relevance as it features the two biggish triodes under discussion here (link). I bought this copy a long time ago in anticipation of constructing something similar to the original AN Ankoru 845 PE amp. For those not familiar with this design it uses a 300B to drive the two 845's via an interstage tx. The designer published details of the design and the circuit in an edition of 'Sound Practise' (what a terrific magazine that was!) which can be viewed here.
 
How did you couple the 2A3?
I tried it several ways but ended up with a Monolith Mag. IT transformer, it was far better than RC or LC coupling
I coupled many times the 6e5p 30mA ( triode ) by CCS low Z to 211 or 6c33, I though if 6e5p can why not the 2a3 at 45mA, in my opinion the 2a3 give a big extra sound to 211, only that 2a3C is a little microphonic ( very big glass) I have ordered the Psvane 2a3b ( small glass) to check witch one is better.
 
By cap ( Audyn Copper ) from CCS low z.

Try an IT if you have one handy, a Hammond 126 will do better than a cap in this scenario but you'll have to lower the operating load (which isn't a bad thing) a bit so it doesn't saturate. A plate choke will also do better than a cap as well. In order of preference- IT, Choke, Cap

Unless your doing a CCS on the 2A3? I'm having a little trouble interpreting your topology.

GM70 schematic 6E5P-DC-300b IT .jpg
 
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Take the 211 to a zero bias point with its grid grounded, and drive its cathode through and IT from the 2A3. B+ around 500V and therefore idle current of +100 mA. You'll need about +/- 50V of input swing, so pick your IT ratio to deliver that...🙂
cheers,
Douglas
 
Try an IT if you have one handy, a Hammond 126 will do better than a cap in this scenario but you'll have to lower the operating load (which isn't a bad thing) a bit so it doesn't saturate. A plate choke will also do better than a cap as well. In order of preference- IT, Choke, Cap

Unless your doing a CCS on the 2A3? I'm having a little trouble interpreting your topology.

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Not have space for more transformer 🙂 and cap sound very good,
I am looking Tango OPT for 211, Where can I buy or other brand with very good quality and reasonable price. ISO maybe?


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