future smd iteration is having slightly higher sound quality - sense of more .... or simply finer details
at least to my brain that's better
difference being more in realm of personal preferences ............. no reason to change if someone already having aony from first 2 batches
but certainly reason enough to buy again in Store and build it
any proper Greedy Boy'z Houseis having need to have at least pair of Iron Pre's
edit: only even number of Iron Pre's per house is logical .......... 6, 8, 12, 22 ............
at least to my brain that's better
difference being more in realm of personal preferences ............. no reason to change if someone already having aony from first 2 batches
but certainly reason enough to buy again in Store and build it
any proper Greedy Boy'z House
edit: only even number of Iron Pre's per house is logical .......... 6, 8, 12, 22 ............
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^"Future iteration"?
When I finally get my hands on these Cinemag preamps I may have to start ignoring you.... hmm.. wait.... I might miss out on the Biggvs Dickvs SIT mono blocks v2.3... hmm...
When I finally get my hands on these Cinemag preamps I may have to start ignoring you.... hmm.. wait.... I might miss out on the Biggvs Dickvs SIT mono blocks v2.3... hmm...
Dan D’Agostino believed in SMD. Amps had lots of detail, that is for sure. But they fried up all the time, needing constant recaps. I have a friend who recaps Krell. He sometimes hates his life. Don’t think he has ever had a papa-amp in, or even a request for a repair.future smd iteration is having slightly higher sound quality - sense of more .... or simply finer details
at least to my brain that's better
difference being more in realm of personal preferences ............. no reason to change if someone already having aony from first 2 batches
but certainly reason enough to buy again in Store and build it
any proper Greedy Boy'z House is having at least pair of Iron Pre's
Luckily my two Pa’s know better
Yup, JFETS in your favorite package, SMD/TO94. Honestly, I can't tell you head to head which pre I would choose, because they are jaw dropping, each one, in my system. Besides that, now I am using different drivers and the break in continues. Maybe 70 hours on the Mark Audio 12PW. I am really wanting to hear what they can do. And lastly, during the break in I am using an entirely different amp combo. It sounds really good and warm, but I am missing the Iron Pre in some ways.
Enough! I'm going downstairs to continue to wire this little baby up!
Enough! I'm going downstairs to continue to wire this little baby up!
And looky, looky what I finally got. I treated myself to a proper chassis. Some people (cough, cough) like to show off their incredible wood working skills while making me ever-so-jealous. 
Seriously... man... that is GORGEOUS!!!
I had to allow one of those 'talians to get me hooked up. Perhaps someday I will learn to build a chassis without completely destroying it... until then... I'll let proper craftsmen handle it for me.
Iron Pre to be moved to its new home soon... I even have it resting on Italian leather while it reacclimates.
Probably a better solution for my screen than... this... Not showing current remote receiver b/c that's even more embarrassing. Thankfully, it doesn't affect the sonics.
Seriously though. First time I've seen one in person. @Gianluca ... it's bellissimo!
Seriously... man... that is GORGEOUS!!!
I had to allow one of those 'talians to get me hooked up. Perhaps someday I will learn to build a chassis without completely destroying it... until then... I'll let proper craftsmen handle it for me.
Iron Pre to be moved to its new home soon... I even have it resting on Italian leather while it reacclimates.
Probably a better solution for my screen than... this... Not showing current remote receiver b/c that's even more embarrassing. Thankfully, it doesn't affect the sonics.
Seriously though. First time I've seen one in person. @Gianluca ... it's bellissimo!
yeah
again and again .......... this could be born in just one Country, nowhere else :
again and again .......... this could be born in just one Country, nowhere else :
What can I say.... my fellow countrymen should be happier to be born where they were! 🙂
Man, there is so much design characteristics in that Guzzi. A personal expression as much as a way of transportation.
A little update is needed here, for some real progress has been made. traitors have been discovered among my interconnects, RCA jacks, and even my CD player. Put them all together in a system, and you get confused. You fix one only to find something else. Finally, I think that the kinks are gone and I have an Iron pre to listen to for real. Now, also in the mix was a mis soldered connection on the board. That was an easy fix after Mr. Zen showed me the way.
I will finally have something to sit back and listen to and not be running around switching this and that up.
Funny though, I am still breaking in a set of Mark Audio drivers, so I can only go so far with all of this. Maybe 30 hours left for the drivers. This thread has been a great help.
I will finally have something to sit back and listen to and not be running around switching this and that up.
Funny though, I am still breaking in a set of Mark Audio drivers, so I can only go so far with all of this. Maybe 30 hours left for the drivers. This thread has been a great help.
No, I didn't wait the full 25-30 hours needed for break in of the drivers. I just had to hear this pre at a little higher volume. Just what I remember, clear and extended. Sound stage like I have rarely heard. So far, I like the bass which was a concern with these drivers. Photo shows temporary set up with out a faceplate. It is operational, but not pretty, and yes, this one is really an 'Iron Pre' !!
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One day (last December!) IAIMH asked for volunteers to build the SMD version of the Iron Pre, and I said (screamed), “Pick me!” I think I was supposed to hustle, but I had to acquire transformers and then I had some scope creep and then I messed up the first rear panel and so on. But here it is. It has CineMags, Frank Wilker’s MUSES solution (here and here) and a too-big Antek transformer. Making lemonade out of my ordering lemons is a hallmark of my DIY audio experience.
Building it went really well. I’m pretty sure I screwed something up and had to re-do it, but I’ll be darned if I can remember what it was. Setting the operating voltage, the current and DC offset was straightforward and without issue.
It sounds fantastic, and I'm very happy that I purchased Frank's MUSES setup. Gianluca was, as always, exceedingly accommodating with my half-baked chassis ideas. Big, big thanks to all involved.
Building it went really well. I’m pretty sure I screwed something up and had to re-do it, but I’ll be darned if I can remember what it was. Setting the operating voltage, the current and DC offset was straightforward and without issue.
It sounds fantastic, and I'm very happy that I purchased Frank's MUSES setup. Gianluca was, as always, exceedingly accommodating with my half-baked chassis ideas. Big, big thanks to all involved.
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Still working on mine, but they do sound like no other. I keep shaking my head as I listen.
One thing I am not understanding is the layout of the input/output jacks of your build. What order are they in? Which are in/out?
One thing I am not understanding is the layout of the input/output jacks of your build. What order are they in? Which are in/out?
Outputs center. Inputs left and right.
Order.... 1-5 right to left facing back of chassis based on lovely color coded wiring.
If I saw correctly on small screen.....
Did I get it right timkrone?
Order.... 1-5 right to left facing back of chassis based on lovely color coded wiring.
If I saw correctly on small screen.....
Did I get it right timkrone?