High quality class AB 100 watt amp

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"This is Jeff Rowland M-9 Amplifier" - see following posts....)))

The peculiarity of this amplifier is that it is built according to the current source – current amplifier circuit. This is different from a classic amplifier with a differential stage. The sound is very clear and has a signature feature. The input impedance is low, so the source follower was installed on a jfet, I assembled a similar version in 2007 year, only instead of a repeater, I installed a 1:5 interstage transformer at the input; in test comparative listening sessions, this version of the amplifier completely outperformed my friend’s tube amplifier. In the same year, my music lover friends asked me to assemble just such an option from the many amplifier options for its signature sound, but signature sound and high-quality sound are not the same thing, so I still switched to the classic topology but with progressive correction....
 
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I like diamond buffer amplifiers
So do I. Mix a diamond with a current feedback node (input stage) and get >300V/uS. Fastest CFA I've tested. A DB (diamond buffer) has
the drawback of being sensitive to P/N Hfe mismatch and Tc (P/N). I used servo'ed CCS's (below). Without a servo , touching P or N would create
offset.
I also have used DB output stages (below 2) with current sources as class A headphone or reverb driver amps. The DB would have the slew of the op-amp (and the THD). Added about 2 PPM to the op-amp output. 100khz square waves are as sharp as 1K ones !
I just built a SMD DB with Toshiba P/N SMD ( HN1B01F ) matched devices .... perfect - very little offset !

PS - I don't use a DB in my class AB EF3 , it is fast enough to easily handle the slew.
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And it's so simple.
But , First circuit above beats it at 100W class AB - (below). That should be what the Russian's circuit would do with a proper output stage.
Still don't beat the Wolverine @ <1PPM .... yikes... does it matter ?

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this version of the amplifier completely outperformed my friend’s tube amplifier.
Why , did it do this - (like a valve amp-below 1) ? The Russian's circuit also (self) clamps (does not saturate) .... at least in simulation.
I've actually built and tested my diamond circuit / VAS. I can clip all day .... led's flash. Close to clip , not harsh.
I use these type circuits to amplify analog synths , very abusive sources .... square/sawtooth/pulse - all sorts of evil harmonics.
Typical forum circuits "stick" and grossly saturate with this abuse.
BTW - I use (below 2) VAS , A CM VAS does the same as it (LED Hawksford) VAS ....

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So do I. Mix a diamond with a current feedback node (input stage) and get >300V/uS. Fastest CFA I've tested. A DB (diamond buffer) has
the drawback of being sensitive to P/N Hfe mismatch and Tc (P/N). I used servo'ed CCS's (below). Without a servo , touching P or N would create offset.

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To prevent that you should thermally connect Q4 with Q8 and Q5 with Q9.😉
 
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To prevent that you should thermally connect Q4 with Q8 and Q5 with Q9.😉
No issue with the 2 SMD duals right next to each other , I did not do this with the through-hole version. Still it was not bad...
By the way, yes, it seems to be true.
I don’t know why a tube one is worse, I remember my friend’s wife came running from the kitchen and asked whose amplifier this was, that her voice sounded so cool.)))
Wish more DIY'ers would build symmetrical designs. Many advantages , better PSRR , general clipping. They do have a different sound in general
and close/at overload. The classic APT and 70's NIKKO used a typical LIN input stage (with FET LTP) , followed by a second differential. Then they
level shifted to a similar hawksford cascode. Both even and odd cancelled out in this case.
As far as the Valve amp , you have output trafo's .... control grid overloads. Solid state is far simpler - just control VAS saturation and design the
whole circuit to determine which stage overloads first. I don't understand why some designs use boosted rails for the IPS ..the last thing you want
is for the actual output devices to saturate first. All my amps - the VAS will clip >3V short of the rails , the OPS never saturates. I lose a whole 5V
on my Hawksfords !!

PS - on a valve amp , the output trafo contributes greatly to the "sound" . It can also saturate....
 
I did hear a Valve amp that truely had some "grunt" ... even <.05% distortion @ 100+ W!!.
-1650V SMPS B+ supply - many amps !! It would kill you !
-Dual 833A tubes with a big toroid output trafo.

It lit the room up , heated the room... too. Damn transmitter Valves !!
But , it was loud and clean like a typical 100W+ class AB SS amp.
I was impressed until the guy told me the tubes cost 1K $$$.
To see how this monster Valve setup on the FFT behaved gave me a reference for my SS amps.
Instead of flashing leds , the 833 plates modulated to the beat ... cool !!
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I did hear a Valve amp that truely had some "grunt" ... even <.05% distortion @ 100+ W!!.
-1650V SMPS B+ supply - many amps !! It would kill you !
-Dual 833A tubes with a big toroid output trafo.

It lit the room up , heated the room... too. Damn transmitter Valves !!
But , it was loud and clean like a typical 100W+ class AB SS amp.
I was impressed until the guy told me the tubes cost 1K $$$.
To see how this monster Valve setup on the FFT behaved gave me a reference for my SS amps.
Instead of flashing leds , the 833 plates modulated to the beat ... cool !
You don’t need transmitter tubes or a 1000+ V SMPS to do this. Regular audio tubes and Antek power iron (but real Hammond output iron). Was expecting the usual “bass guitar amp” sound, and my jaw dropped. Damn thing sounded like a Crown Macrotech. So what to do? Build another for stereo of course.

Next one will be TV tubes, as Russian tubes are now persona non grata.
 

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