Best Compression Drivers today 2022?

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Do you also have experience with those coaxial compression drivers?
The crossover between its two ways could be a bit tricky.
I don't like its HD performance shown in the Voice-Coil measurements. But maybe this is made-up by the fact that it is a two-way driver which should give it an advantage regarding IMD. I am convinced that this is the case at very loud PA evels. But does it still have this advantage over a single high-quality driver at (even loud) domestic levels ? Hard to judge without hearing it.

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The DCX464 has been used in many project in this form with very good result.
But the DCX354 is too new to find listening impression...
The distortion measured in voice coil shows slightly lower distortion on DCX464?
 
It certainly is. I'm familiar with several applications, in RCF PA cabs and have listened to 3 pairs of Blumenhofers with the ND850 >
it's his preferred mid-size compression driver. However, these were all 1.4" versions, which also seems to measure slightly better.
Did they cross over 8kHz with another driver to avoid the resonance shown in CSD?
Or it's actually not that audible
 
Did they cross over 8kHz with another driver to avoid the resonance shown in CSD?
Or it's actually not that audible
No, strictly 2 way...

The Blumenhofers are among the best speakers I've listened to, regardless of price.
The 2x220s were head and shoulders above the rest at the latest local high-end show. Still not perfect due to pattern flip and the 'handover' between the waveformer and radial horn, but in terms of imaging and naturalness from a different, more advanced universe, compared to the Magicos for example. The only system that succeeded with flying colors in 'teleporting' the listener to the band and vice versa.

ND850 1.4:
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With waveguide:
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Hi guys,

I just tested several Elliptical OS horn, I have never use them before:

Here are what I found vs biradial horn that i normally use:
1. Ellliptical has much smoother freq response but earlier roll off and steeper slope in the high. Need more eq to fix
2. Biradial has jagged freq response, not as smooth, but the roll off is latter and less steep than elliptical. Less eq to fix.

Can someone tell why this happens?

Any horn design that have both characteristics? \

Thanks
 
Hi guys,

I just tested several Elliptical OS horn, I have never use them before:

Here are what I found vs biradial horn that i normally use:
1. Ellliptical has much smoother freq response but earlier roll off and steeper slope in the high. Need more eq to fix
2. Biradial has jagged freq response, not as smooth, but the roll off is latter and less steep than elliptical. Less eq to fix.

Can someone tell why this happens?

Any horn design that have both characteristics? \

Thanks
OS=CD so it exhibits the usual roll-off past ca. 8 Khz.

The horn path + mouth termination of most biradial horns are less smooth, which results in a (more) ragged response.
In addition, the horn is more efficient in the highest octaves due to a gradual expansion of the wavefront.
 
The Blumenhofers are among the best speakers I've listened to, regardless of price.

I have the same experience with them. Now I'm wondering why they do not sound like they are significantly lacking HF... last time I checked, I hear well up to around 15-16khz so why am I not missing anything when listening to speakers that roll off after 8khz? Is response above 10k overrated? Or is it just me?

Not worrying about HF too much makes choosing a CD for my 2-way design plans much easier...
 
I have the same experience with them. Now I'm wondering why they do not sound like they are significantly lacking HF... last time I checked, I hear well up to around 15-16khz so why am I not missing anything when listening to speakers that roll off after 8khz? Is response above 10k overrated? Or is it just me?

Not worrying about HF too much makes choosing a CD for my 2-way design plans much easier...

The horn sections of BH speakers are (passively) corrected, so there's hardly any drop in the top octave. 2 examples:

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@Ro808 are those measurements of Blumenhofer speakers? If so, what model?
And if they are corrected, is still "breakup territory" is that not an issue?

In other words, when using DSP, is there any reason to not use a large format CD? Would the highs of a 1" still be better then those of a 2", or would you not be able to tell the difference once EQ'ed ?

@juanitox Also interesting question