Could you please show the speaker driver's back & label so there would be no doubt which one it really is? Thanks.
same color label as the ones I picked up through the Liiaudio website recently. (i passed on the fast 15 ) My baffles are taller w same width -the driver elevated to near ear level. This has been my introduction to full range & open baffle and I'm pleased 3 months out. midrange / vocals / strings / etc.. very nice. Bass is good to 70 hz. My only criticism is the sweet spot is narrow, which doesn't surprise me, but for $450 delivered, not to much to fault. Of course I will eventually want a proper 2 way dipole like what Perry Marshall designed & shared in the forum, but these will do for the time being...
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I have a driver very similar to this one, it's possibly produced at the same factory. I've attached the current data sheet. I've been VERY happy with the Audio Nirvana driver. I think this bodes well for the Chinese sourced driver.
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The Lii F-15's sound way better with my old Denon PMA 2000 ivR solid state than with the Cayin cs55a tube amp I bought.Way better .
People don't like when I say dipoles NEED to be 6' or more from the front wall.
That gives a lovely 12ms echo that is also knocked down in level due to the distance.
Or, use foam, rock wool, whatever on the wall behind the speaker if have to be closer than 6' or 2 meters...
Good to hear on the sibelius.
That gives a lovely 12ms echo that is also knocked down in level due to the distance.
Or, use foam, rock wool, whatever on the wall behind the speaker if have to be closer than 6' or 2 meters...
Good to hear on the sibelius.
I' ve had Tannoy D900' s 10 inch coaxial with 10 iinch woofer.
I like my diy Lii F15' s a lot more.
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Gentlemen,
I spend some time to read this thread.
I am in China since few months and have to stay here a bit. I went with few equipment especially stidio active monitors, to be able to listen to some music.
But was pretty sure to buy something more fun (studio monitors are clear and linear and bla bla bla, but not fun). I read Decaware thread about the F15 and seen some video on youtube, and was determined to do something, an OB with cheap speakers. Then I went into trouble. There was some parts on Taobao with a certain price, and different parts on western website, not the same published measurments and something ununderstandable for me. I was in relation with the "fake" company, offering me to buy a finished product like the one on decaware, for 1000€ (F15) or 1200 (FAST15). When I ask why the QTS of 0.5 on their website, they told my it's difficult to explain to me, but was ok for an OB.
Now, I know. So I bought a pair of FAST15 for near nothing, 2 planks of wood and the total cost is near 400€. Waiting for delivery. And if I don't like it, not a problem, just some time to spend on a project, it's also possible to learn from fails.
Anyway, huge thanks for this thread and tanks a lot @caisson rj !
I spend some time to read this thread.
I am in China since few months and have to stay here a bit. I went with few equipment especially stidio active monitors, to be able to listen to some music.
But was pretty sure to buy something more fun (studio monitors are clear and linear and bla bla bla, but not fun). I read Decaware thread about the F15 and seen some video on youtube, and was determined to do something, an OB with cheap speakers. Then I went into trouble. There was some parts on Taobao with a certain price, and different parts on western website, not the same published measurments and something ununderstandable for me. I was in relation with the "fake" company, offering me to buy a finished product like the one on decaware, for 1000€ (F15) or 1200 (FAST15). When I ask why the QTS of 0.5 on their website, they told my it's difficult to explain to me, but was ok for an OB.
Now, I know. So I bought a pair of FAST15 for near nothing, 2 planks of wood and the total cost is near 400€. Waiting for delivery. And if I don't like it, not a problem, just some time to spend on a project, it's also possible to learn from fails.
Anyway, huge thanks for this thread and tanks a lot @caisson rj !
I have the Fast 15's from the other Lii Audio who now brand themselves as Lii Song. I don't like them. But yours are completely different speakers from a different company. Did you buy them on Aliexpress?
That makes sense. That Lii Audio only sells in China and some companies resell them on Aliexpress to foreign buyers. As far as I know there isn't any objective comparison about which company makes the better speakers. Your company does seem to be the "original" Lii Audio but that doesn't mean they are the best although they may well be.
This is not a problem for me. I just want to spend a little budget, for fun and spend my time in another subjects than computer science.
I've bought a little amp yesterday to drive them for test. The Fosi BT20A pro measured here
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/.../fosi-audio-bt20a-pro-amplifier-review.43751/
For 53€.
I've bought a little amp yesterday to drive them for test. The Fosi BT20A pro measured here
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/.../fosi-audio-bt20a-pro-amplifier-review.43751/
For 53€.
