Anthropomorphism also is projection of what we are in concepts that has no sense but have our attributes. It's how you see 4/5 of the humanity are not more clever than gorillas and yet more superstitious ! Often understood in the sense you give but not in the opposite direction... 🤣
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That question makes my head hurt. It seems impossible to realize a state of nothingness because nothing exists to perceive it. Therefore, the universe exits because it must.
Heard an interesting postulation by a guy named Chris Langan the other day. He claims to have a 200+ IQ and came up with his own ToE (Theory of Everything) called CTMU (Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe). According to my understanding of his theory, our consciousness as "Telors" or "observers" provides universe feedback through our experiences while simultaneously creating reality as active obrservers/participants. In otherwords our consciouness both allows the universe to experience itself and instantiate itself as "reality". Seems like an outcropping of the double slit experiment where electrons behave differently whether or not they're being observed. Not smart enough to confirm any of this. 🤷♂️
“I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you different.” - Kurt Vonnegut
Life begins with the quest for milk, then knowledge, then sex, then career, then money, then end of career, then just one more year, month, day, then done. There is no intrinsic meaning and the only tangible things you leave are descendants and, for very very few an increase in the sum of human knowledge. That's about it.
My cat used to fish for crayfish. Fine with me, if they where fishing for gabbage it would have cost me a lot $$ on psychotherapy.
I've never given this question any serious thought. So here goes....
Entanglement per se is merely a distributed-process constraint/condition, that two objects are related in some specific attribute (e.g. a pair of separated socks). Double-slit experiment electrons are entangled in some way hence counter-intuitive results. Back when I was a first-year grad student and teaching assistant in computation theory, I had given a lecture on NP-completeness, constructing a so-called nondeterministic computer circuit that, once given a set of nondeterministic bits ("short certificate"; secret password signature; lucky coin-tosses; oracle; what-have-you), will then solve quickly any combinatorial puzzle problem (N=nondeterministic, P=polynomial-time). So these magical bits are entangled particles of information that together condition/constrain the distributed computer/computation, solving otherwise exponentially difficult problems. Perhaps our biological nervous system physically and massively embodies or encompasses such a nondeterministic computer/computation. The entanglement needs not be quantum. This problem-solving "general intelligence" may be manifested as higher levels of consciousness.
What is the meaning of life? To evolve higher consciousness (entangled distributed computation) that, acting against entropy, creates nonrandom, nonhomogeneous structures of art in broad sense.
Entanglement per se is merely a distributed-process constraint/condition, that two objects are related in some specific attribute (e.g. a pair of separated socks). Double-slit experiment electrons are entangled in some way hence counter-intuitive results. Back when I was a first-year grad student and teaching assistant in computation theory, I had given a lecture on NP-completeness, constructing a so-called nondeterministic computer circuit that, once given a set of nondeterministic bits ("short certificate"; secret password signature; lucky coin-tosses; oracle; what-have-you), will then solve quickly any combinatorial puzzle problem (N=nondeterministic, P=polynomial-time). So these magical bits are entangled particles of information that together condition/constrain the distributed computer/computation, solving otherwise exponentially difficult problems. Perhaps our biological nervous system physically and massively embodies or encompasses such a nondeterministic computer/computation. The entanglement needs not be quantum. This problem-solving "general intelligence" may be manifested as higher levels of consciousness.
What is the meaning of life? To evolve higher consciousness (entangled distributed computation) that, acting against entropy, creates nonrandom, nonhomogeneous structures of art in broad sense.
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entangled = random/unrandom?
random = possible?
possible = conceivable?
complex = contextual?
contextual = indefinable, indescribable = non-existent?
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entangled = random/unrandom?
random = possible?
possible = conceivable?
complex = contextual?
contextual = indefinable, indescribable = non-existent?
...-?
In the best Jean-Paul Satre Being and Nothingness fashion (ie extremely dull and depressing):
a) Your genetic contribution only lasts 7-8 generations before the dilution removes your characteristics
b) Societies only exist for a few hundred years before war/famine/change also changes the characteristic of the society
c) Written records only last a short time - with fragments appearing from the last 1000 years not giving a full picture
d) Your ego (id) is specific to your perspective which is based on environment (immediate or dogma) - a good example is Plato and The Republic, this text happily accepts infanticide as it was accepted back in the day. Yet core observations are still the basis of modern society and science.
If entropy destroys everything to the lowest energy state required.. I ask - why do we desire order? Is it to provide safe environment for the growth of the next generation? Is it to protect existence within a entropy governed environment?
If that is the case then we are simply there to provide the cocoon tube through time for the line of the spark of life to travel.
a) Your genetic contribution only lasts 7-8 generations before the dilution removes your characteristics
b) Societies only exist for a few hundred years before war/famine/change also changes the characteristic of the society
c) Written records only last a short time - with fragments appearing from the last 1000 years not giving a full picture
d) Your ego (id) is specific to your perspective which is based on environment (immediate or dogma) - a good example is Plato and The Republic, this text happily accepts infanticide as it was accepted back in the day. Yet core observations are still the basis of modern society and science.
If entropy destroys everything to the lowest energy state required.. I ask - why do we desire order? Is it to provide safe environment for the growth of the next generation? Is it to protect existence within a entropy governed environment?
If that is the case then we are simply there to provide the cocoon tube through time for the line of the spark of life to travel.
But what does that actually mean? For instance a creator equivalent to one of the monotheist gods could have created the universe a femto second ago, complete, as it is now, with memories, history, fossils and big bang radiation background.
How do we even know what it takes to create our existence. Perhaps there's a second/third/fourth level god with enough power to do that sort of thing, and having been created by such a thing we naturally assume it's the apex predator...
If it was aliens, we're still left wondering what made them.
We know almost nothing about the universe except that, probably, a large chunk of what we know now will prove to be either flat out wrong, misleading or hopelessly incomplete. I'm incline to stick with Occam and think that DNA+Time = US. Not necessarily sapiens, but something that fills an evolutionary niche for a language using, tool wielding, environment creating lifeform. There seems to be evidence that life started on earth several times, got knocked back, started again. Pervasive and persistent.
I'm more inclined to go with the Drake equation than the Fermi paradox 🙂
Let me give you a piece of advice (in regard to the question of this thread) that is likely to resonate well with quite a few of audiophiles.
Whenever you seek other people's opinion or experience, you shoud bare in mind that people have more or less distorted vision of it. You know we are all hurt in some form, so the answer suffers from it.
What is then an alternate course of action to avoid wrong conclusions?
Study the behaviour of the creatures you encounter in our surroundings (nature). The way they behave, the program that is written in their corpus, will lead you to a universally correct answer. And that is just the first step of enlightment.
Whenever you seek other people's opinion or experience, you shoud bare in mind that people have more or less distorted vision of it. You know we are all hurt in some form, so the answer suffers from it.
What is then an alternate course of action to avoid wrong conclusions?
Study the behaviour of the creatures you encounter in our surroundings (nature). The way they behave, the program that is written in their corpus, will lead you to a universally correct answer. And that is just the first step of enlightment.
All three monotheist religions exclude a deceitful God. Creating humanity with false memories is deceitful.
It's been a long time since my A level physics, but I remember entropy being described as degree of disorder and gas mechanics used to illustrate it. So isn't an ordered existence a lower entropic state and therefore an expected consequence of an ordered universe? Given that energy is neither created or destroyed, what happens during the heat death of the universe? Crystalisation? Like that described by JG Ballard in "The Crystal World"?
Even then though, the heat death of the universe is probably not something I need to worry about before the weekend...
Well, yes. But perhaps that's the way the creator made us is to believe that the creator is "the unmoved mover" and therefore perfect. Or at least that's what we've come to believe as part of our struggle to explain the complex and implacable world around us. But, gods and aliens solve nothing, they merely kick the philosophical problems down the road and provide opportunities for speculation as to motive, purpose etc.
I've long thought that while such speculation is fun, it can be become a serious distraction from the real stuff of life because the answers are hollow...
I'm reminded of Deep Thought explaining that finding the answer to life the universe and everything was going to take long long time and that the sages, scryers and philosophers need not worry about unemployment...
I get back from the kitchen drinking a glass of milk then readed that... how shocking ! 😊
The properties of atoms, molecules and compounds are the opposite of a matter seeking disorder. Molecules and compounds are ordered, and have molecular forms to such an extent, that complex chemistries like life processes are possible.
I see a matter which often seeks order rather than disorder and this also applies to very large celestial bodies like black holes, galaxies and solar systems with orbiting planets. At first it is chaos, then with the passing of time, the remainder is often ordered over a very long period of time. This is order to me and comes automatically from the properties of matter.
I see a matter which often seeks order rather than disorder and this also applies to very large celestial bodies like black holes, galaxies and solar systems with orbiting planets. At first it is chaos, then with the passing of time, the remainder is often ordered over a very long period of time. This is order to me and comes automatically from the properties of matter.
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