Not a good idea…..combing will start around 800hz and you’d need massive EQ and the off axis response would still be awful. The purity of the fullrange solution is a single point source within a 3D space which creates a startling soundstage……if that’s what you’re after (most people are) use it as intended with help from (sub) woofer if higher output is needed.
I'm always up to try new things, but a line array of 8" FR drivers is not and it is doomed to fail miserably.
Read the white papers on line arrays. If you do want to do one, max size should be 3" drivers and will need heavy EQ.
Unless you want to do a bass line array. Now, that's something that is worth pursuing. I'd love to do a nine 8" bass drivers (to keep Ohms the same as a single driver) on each side, flanking the SB20, for example.
I was thinking of wiring it like the middle diagram here, so only one driver would actually be playing fullrange: http://www.planet10-hifi.com/downloads/Quad-Driver-Wiring.pdf
I'd hardly call a MTM a "line array". 🙂
And there will be XO components, so they won't be FR drivers.
Meh... so, you'd like to use one FR doing wide band, and three more of the same FR driver doing only woofer duty?
Other than having visually a line of similar drivers, I don't see the advantages over using a dedicated mid woofers instead of the FR.
As Mayhem pointed out, your other three drivers will have to be low passed before 800Hz, otherwise you will enter comb filtering range. That's a lot of wasted energy.
Wanna use two? This driver sims very well in a MLTL. Put one in a folded line, XO around 300-400Hz, put the other on top going from XO point and up.
You'll have the line covering down to about 35Hz, and a very clean distortion free top driver, not having to handle the wider lower spectrum.
Hi all
another look on the measurements i did....
here in same scale of the axis as the manufaktorer data / specs.
Difference im method: SB in lab contitions ca 31cm distance, my measurement home, 1m distance in an enclosure
Enjoy..
another look on the measurements i did....
here in same scale of the axis as the manufaktorer data / specs.
Difference im method: SB in lab contitions ca 31cm distance, my measurement home, 1m distance in an enclosure
Enjoy..
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It is nice to see good data without photoshop directly from the manufacturer...🙂
Very nice correlation between measurements, you have diffraction bumps and baffle step loss, otherwise everything is the same....
Fun fact:
Satori MW16P is actually one of the best fullrangers on Earth, just nobody calls it that way....🙂
Very nice correlation between measurements, you have diffraction bumps and baffle step loss, otherwise everything is the same....
Fun fact:
Satori MW16P is actually one of the best fullrangers on Earth, just nobody calls it that way....🙂
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Would something like Dave’s eNable be useful for this driver? Cheap enough to experiment I’d guess. Help smooth out the top end a bit?
If somebody can, it would be nice to do FR measurement with whizzer cone slightly damped with piece od damping fiberglass or cotton or wool.
Just to stuck small quantitiy of damping all around between whizzer and main cone....5 minutes of job and it is reversible...🙂
I would measure but my boxes are still not finished......
Just to stuck small quantitiy of damping all around between whizzer and main cone....5 minutes of job and it is reversible...🙂
I would measure but my boxes are still not finished......
Thanks for that. I'm always on the lookout for a nice driver to put in my favorite design, MLTL. That one sims very well in a very tight package.
Myself, I would probably cross it at around 3kHz.
Not cheap, but looks really good. I'm sure it sounds just as good as it looks!
What enclosure did u make I have the sb drivers looking for box dimensions for 2 versions compact sealed and another box as much as bass as possible
For sealed box if giving less bass I will plan to use Open Baffel subs
I am planning in buildig this next week what is the f3 you get in this and if i need to add a sealed sub 10" peerless xls 10 what frequency should i integrate it with SB 8" Fr I have minidsp 2x4hd
I have seen a few comparisons with other full range drivers in this thread. This may be an apples and oranges comparison, but what would people chose between the Alpair 10m the SB acoustics? I want to try a full range driver, and there is an appeal to both of these divers. Any opinions, or can someone try to explain the differences?
Based on reviews and better efficiency of 92db vs 87db I’d go for the SB without hesitation but if your amp is powerful (not a small SET low power one) you could also try the 10M.
I’m biased since I prefer bigger full range drivers for;
-Dynamics
-Effortless presentation
-Full bodied
Eric
