Your friend could be right. Then again, the near unanimity of the science world could also be right...
What power could exactly be grabbed by saying that the sea level rises if it doesn't? Is it a plot of the dike-builders association? Have they bribed the entire science community all over the world?
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My friend set me thinking. I suspect the Dutch have the most knowledge. I would place my trust in it more than any other source. I said the only plot might be to take money power away from oil producers. If so why now and not the past? I can see a time when London floods and Amsterdam not because the Dutch acted quickly enough. My friends words " The sea hasn't changed in 60 years. It's a pack of lies. I know what I see with my own eyes ". More or less what he said. I have known him nearly 50 years. This is the first time I had to disagree with him to the extent that feelings were hurt.
"Number of floods" is a dubious metric. New Jersey had dozens of 100-year floods 1960-2000 because we were bulldozing and paving watersheds relentlessly. Bound Brook hadn't flooded twice in 3 centuries until Rt22 and the uplands were developed and forced to drain to the river instead of soaking the ground, then it got knee-high 3 times in 2 decades. (Which was about the last stroke for a town devastated by a chemical industry collapse.) Then again in 2007.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...ndbrook041607.jpg/1280px-Boundbrook041607.jpg
So your friend doesn't believe in anything he can't see? He also doesn't believe in COVID (a virus MUCH too small to see)? Or any number of other phenomena? I'm sorry this caused hurt feelings. That sucks...
Exactly!
If that is the metric people use to decide whether something exists or not, is true or not, all bets are off.
We can sell the LHC to an amusement park - all those tiny particles are just not there, it's all a power grab by tunnel builders ;-)
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I've recently read a very interesting book: "The unnatural nature of science". The author argues that science and the scientific method are unnatural, because it involves NOT believing what you see or hear, but instead rely on reason, repeatable experiments and math. And, most important and most difficult for us, a willingness to accept that you were wrong and made a mistake. A really good scientist is constantly trying to prove himself wrong!
There's not much more unnatural for the human species.
So it is no surprise that not all humans are comfortable with such a mindset and have trouble to believe that what they can't see or even what goes against what they clearly see!
Again, the solution is threefold: education, education, education.
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There's not much more unnatural for the human species.
So it is no surprise that not all humans are comfortable with such a mindset and have trouble to believe that what they can't see or even what goes against what they clearly see!
Again, the solution is threefold: education, education, education.
Jan
My point was. The Dutch know more than us. They live very near us. I bet we ignore what they are doing. And yes to we build where we shouldn't.
I have said many times that the train Greta Thunberg believes in left the station maybe in 2000. It might have arrived at it's final station already. It is right to agree with her, but for different reasons. Reduction, not cure. The rest is engineering.
It is possible the train was in the station as long ago as 1850.
I have said many times that the train Greta Thunberg believes in left the station maybe in 2000. It might have arrived at it's final station already. It is right to agree with her, but for different reasons. Reduction, not cure. The rest is engineering.
It is possible the train was in the station as long ago as 1850.
Taking an average of what's said this is typical. I can understand my friend thinking it's not true.
"Global mean sea level has risen about 8–9 inches (21–24 centimeters) since 1880, with about a third of that coming in just the last two and a half decades. The rising water level is mostly due to a combination of meltwater from glaciers and ice sheets and thermal expansion of seawater as it warms"
Climate Change: Global Sea Level | NOAA Climate.gov
"Global mean sea level has risen about 8–9 inches (21–24 centimeters) since 1880, with about a third of that coming in just the last two and a half decades. The rising water level is mostly due to a combination of meltwater from glaciers and ice sheets and thermal expansion of seawater as it warms"
Climate Change: Global Sea Level | NOAA Climate.gov
You know, could be you're on to something there! 😀
Maybe the Masonic Lodge is trying to get the dike builders to use more stone and concrete. 😀
It's like summer is ending here, I have to think of something to save my chilies so they can mature. Especially my Trinidad Moruga Scorpion...
Here in the U.K. the last week or so has seen heavy rain ‘showers’.
All the water soaks back through the render and block work.
All the water soaks back through the render and block work.
It's a survival tactic, the foliage dies off to reduce the demands on the root.
You may have bigger problems underfoot. Carnivorous plants!! Count your toes!!
1st Carnivorous Plant Identified In 20 Years Grows Near Vancouver : NPR
"...right on our doorstep in Vancouver. You could literally walk out from Vancouver to this field site."
A Carnivorous Plant Has Been Hiding in Plain Sight in North America