The American capacitor manufacturing company I checked up on were quite explicit quote- their
"audio capacitors are not meant for use in power supplies" -end quote.
But that engendered an argument ,on the other hand-----happy shareholders -shorter the life of a product then- the law of Supply & Demand-bigger dividends but keep the publicity going .
Thats a big issue in the UK now new big business rules --don't hold spares costs too much --buy another one .
"audio capacitors are not meant for use in power supplies" -end quote.
But that engendered an argument ,on the other hand-----happy shareholders -shorter the life of a product then- the law of Supply & Demand-bigger dividends but keep the publicity going .
Thats a big issue in the UK now new big business rules --don't hold spares costs too much --buy another one .
Products that are designed to endure and to have a long service life is green.--Jean-Paul .
Not a truer word spoken !
Very big issue on the "rubbish " domestic imports to the UK that break down either inside 6 months or just over it --spares? --err- don't ask .
I am still getting emails on the subject from irate UK citizens via my old website and try getting your money back --and try .
I learned long ago to buy only from wholesalers who supply the trade -better quality -better customer service - and by phone definitely not via the web,s "big you know who companies " .
Post after post- but my xxxxxx washing machine -vacuum cleaner- etc lasted 20 years and I thought a new one by the (same ) company would last as long --"same company taken over by a "giant " , production farmed out to-- well you know -pile em high -sell ,em cheap .
And yes I have nearly 1G of data on this subject alone .
Not a truer word spoken !
Very big issue on the "rubbish " domestic imports to the UK that break down either inside 6 months or just over it --spares? --err- don't ask .
I am still getting emails on the subject from irate UK citizens via my old website and try getting your money back --and try .
I learned long ago to buy only from wholesalers who supply the trade -better quality -better customer service - and by phone definitely not via the web,s "big you know who companies " .
Post after post- but my xxxxxx washing machine -vacuum cleaner- etc lasted 20 years and I thought a new one by the (same ) company would last as long --"same company taken over by a "giant " , production farmed out to-- well you know -pile em high -sell ,em cheap .
And yes I have nearly 1G of data on this subject alone .
True, the bass is not very tight and little overblown. But if you have to tame the upper mids or when you want to get more bass & body it delivers. If the Nichicons (KW, FG, KZ, PV, KA, KG) get to hot in the upper mids you can tame it with a smaller Silmic II.
Both! Do yourself a favor and solder them out - you can use them on PC motherboards.
The KZs get very low but dont have the upper bass tilt, I think they are the most neutral sounding elcaps out there. Yeah, the upper mids are a tad too hot maybe but mids transparency is also world class. Tame them with smaller Silmic II or Nichicon VZ in parallel.
I really dont like the fuzzy Panasonic sound and they have overblown upper bass. Soundstage gets smeared. The soundstage fuzz of the Panasonics are a no go for me.
I will try some Nichicon KGs. Thats a good tip.
Last edited:
Higher voltage caps do sound better for obvious reasons. Like less distortion. On my opamp RIAA preamp PCB I even use Nichicon KZ 33uF/100V as decoupling caps.
Exactly! Also the lack of body and low bass, and decay is declining much too fast. This leads to a kind dead chamber sound. They kill the ambience in the recordings.
Well in comparison to KZ the bass is not so deep, but on the other hand KZ has the deepest bass of all elcaps and still total slam and fast. The FG series has a little bit upper mid & highs tilt. No problem! I use them in several PSUs and tame them with 10-100uF Silmic II or Nichicon VZ caps. FGs & FWs are precise, fast, very neutral, low distortion and do not have the typical elcap problems. Freq extremes are the most problematic area for elcaps, regarding this the Nichicon audio elcaps do exceptionally well.
The stupid measurement equipment cant even hear the difference between a metal and paper cone of a speaker. But an old man with only one ear functioning will hear it in seconds...
Don't understand why you guys like Silmic ll. The highs for me is what kills it.
For many probably like that tubey sound for SS equipment. Japanese market Silmic ll does sound better though & strangely bigger in size for same value when compared to those that Digikey sells.
Re parallel, I prefer KZ with Cerafine of small value. Compensate Bass lightness from elsewhere. Silmic highs synthetic & shut in to my ears.
Cheers
Silmic I or II? Cos II is very different. If you heard the II version please let them burn in for at least 200h. After 50h they start to sound very different. After burn in much more space, soundstage & transparency. But of course one must be careful with Silmic II caps cos they are not very neutral. You said tubey, yes thats right.
"Don't understand why you guys like Silmic ll"
We are the warm hearted guys
I use the Silmic II as sound tuning tools.
"Don't understand why you guys like Silmic ll"
We are the warm hearted guys
I use the Silmic II as sound tuning tools.
Last edited:
Hi SinGun
I always let caps burn in coming frm BG camp yes I done the same for Silmic ll.
All caps needs some burn in time at least a couple of hours. Like KZ when installed you think wow that's what Im looking for but play music leave the system over night next day hmmmm that wow is gone sound changed.
Cheers
I always let caps burn in coming frm BG camp yes I done the same for Silmic ll.
All caps needs some burn in time at least a couple of hours. Like KZ when installed you think wow that's what Im looking for but play music leave the system over night next day hmmmm that wow is gone sound changed.
Cheers
