The Fostex and AN drivers are at least 3x more expensive than this SBA.
It would be very cool for the DIY community if the SBA can perform well, at less than 1/3 the price!
It would be very cool for the DIY community if the SBA can perform well, at less than 1/3 the price!
Just of curiosity - is this HR showing nearfield output or does it include baffle diffraction loss of low freq?
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Bunch of friends and I used to diy with fostex, coral, feastrex etc. We reckon the Satori MW16 is the most balanced fullrange driver ever! See its frequency response for proof.
61/2” SATORI MW16P-4 / Paper – Sbacoustics
Hi fishball79/Chris
Did you use any correction filter with Satori MW16?
They call it as a midwoofer. It makes about 15khz(I think it is enough). How does this driver sound?
Did you use any correction filter with Satori MW16?
They call it as a midwoofer. It makes about 15khz(I think it is enough). How does this driver sound?
hmmm... as expected of a 6.5" woofer, it starts beaming at 2kHz.
The sweet spot listening position must be just a few centimetres wide.
It is a very nice driver, but it needs a tweeter.
Actually, I am ordering the midrange model, planning to work in ordinary BR cabs. I hope their off-axis performance not too bad.
61/2” SATORI MR16PNW-8 / Paper – Sbacoustics
61/2” SATORI MR16PNW-8 / Paper – Sbacoustics
that one seems to have a little better performance off-axis.
Looks quite nice.
Would probably enough for my old ears
Looks quite nice.
Would probably enough for my old ears
That does indeed look like full range. It’s wide bandwidth might make it a great candidate for a 1st order FAST with 10F or similar as top full range. In a MTM even or a bipole one can get the full 88dB sensitivity after baffle step loss.
Looking forward to this driver as well. Just checked that a dipole line array with 12 of them would displace close to 30% more air than my current pair of 12" woofers.
I know that in theory smaller units are to be preferred for better HF performance, but this one could maybe do a nice overall result.
I know that in theory smaller units are to be preferred for better HF performance, but this one could maybe do a nice overall result.
really not a good idea.
at 8" c-to-c and a bit over that counting in the bezel, you will run into serious combing effect.
Better add another pair of your 12" woofers if you want more spl / less distortion down low.
at 8" c-to-c and a bit over that counting in the bezel, you will run into serious combing effect.
Better add another pair of your 12" woofers if you want more spl / less distortion down low.
Or you can do it like me and do the basic 2x15" per channel for bass.
Double 15" is almost equal to a single 21".
They hardly ever flap about, most of the time it's impossible to see that they move at all.
It has happened that I've turned the system all the way up and run some low freq sweeps just to check if there's something wrong.
Can feel slight vibrations in the chair even at very low volume, despite being placed on the house foundations concrete floor, it's just from sound travelling through the air. I can get very good volume out of even a 6" that *sounds* very compareable, but the feel and presence is completely different.
There's no comparison.
No replacement for displacement = true.
Double 15" is almost equal to a single 21".
They hardly ever flap about, most of the time it's impossible to see that they move at all.
It has happened that I've turned the system all the way up and run some low freq sweeps just to check if there's something wrong.
Can feel slight vibrations in the chair even at very low volume, despite being placed on the house foundations concrete floor, it's just from sound travelling through the air. I can get very good volume out of even a 6" that *sounds* very compareable, but the feel and presence is completely different.
There's no comparison.
No replacement for displacement = true.
Perceval, could you clarify a little, which woofer it is?
And which FR you would like to combine?
I know I know 🙂
smaller FR units will do better dipole pattern (better = over a wider range) as well as less combing effect.
Still looking forward to your experience with them!
Erik
Thank, you, understood. It is labeled as midrange.
What is your opinion about the one labeled as midwoofer 61/2” SATORI MW16P-8 / Paper – Sbacoustics ? Is is suitable for MLTL and also for some sub 1000Hz reproduction? Actually, there are 4 of them which are pretty similar is specs:
61/2” SATORI MW16P-8 / Paper – Sbacoustics
61/2” SATORI MR16P-8 / Paper – Sbacoustics
61/2” SATORI MW16PNW-8 / Paper – Sbacoustics
61/2” SATORI MR16PNW-8 / Paper – Sbacoustics
Also, which one of them may be suitable for 10F/8424 & RS225-8 FAST / WAW Ref Monitor instead of Dayton? Price in EU is similar or even better for SBA.
I am long time lurker on that thread, and want to build smth similar with cheap passive XO crossed a bit higher than typical WAW/FAST, may be at 900-1000Hz. Probably SBA drivers will be more cost effective (in my place).
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Looking at the response at 30 deg off axis, they all look pretty good.
The MW series looks better for a 10F/RS225 look-alike.
The MR is aimed at midrange mostly.
Will they work as drop in replacement to the RS225? They will probably need their own XO, which I would keep around 800Hz or a bit lower.
The 1000Hz area can be very sensitive to ears and having the hand-off in that area might bring some trouble.
The MW series looks better for a 10F/RS225 look-alike.
The MR is aimed at midrange mostly.
Will they work as drop in replacement to the RS225? They will probably need their own XO, which I would keep around 800Hz or a bit lower.
The 1000Hz area can be very sensitive to ears and having the hand-off in that area might bring some trouble.
Oops.
Looks like we will have to wait a little for this driver.
Just got a message from my distributor, after I was inquiring how long it would take to get them here.
They called SBA, and it seems there is a production line issue, so, no drivers have been manufactured yet.
So, hope none of you are in a rush.
Looks like we will have to wait a little for this driver.
Just got a message from my distributor, after I was inquiring how long it would take to get them here.
They called SBA, and it seems there is a production line issue, so, no drivers have been manufactured yet.
So, hope none of you are in a rush.