PRV 5MR450-NDY for FAST/WAW applications

...On the other hand the beyma will be more controlled and goes higher in frequency...

Beyma list Le @1kHz 0,2mH and show impedance graphs, PRV in old datasheet never list Le and never show impedance graphs, where in new rev. they list a ultra low 0,03mH @1kHz.

...Scale not quite the same, but you get the gist........

Overlaid same scale and note latest rev of datasheet is used, the two resonse files is hanged on below as txt-file, rename to frd-file if that is needed.

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Wouldn't using two of these drivers cause serious lobing?

I think the comb interference (due to two radiators next to each other) can cause some issues in the very near field (circa 1m or less). My own experience with two TC9FD's in a double configuration did not sound bad at all when you are at a reasonable listening distance - typically 2.5m. When you put a microphone and measure and move the mic up and down, you will see <1dB comb interference, but it is not really audible.

The Nautaloss Ref Monitor

What is audible is the +6dB increase in sensitivty (at the same drive voltage). For the dual PRV 5MR450-NDY in parallel - that is a 100dB at 2.83v speaker. That is kind of scary loud/sensitive. It would mean very very little cone movement for reasonable listening sound levels of 80dB, which would translate to very low distortion, and hence, super super clarity.
 
There is some cool stuff going on with the 5MR450NDY driver over on Lencoheaven:

Member TransFi over there certainly has some innovative ideas - very nice work

I think you might find his journer very informative. I love the use of scaffolding rigging for making a baffle-less speaker

But from what I have read on his reports of the PRV driver - it is his favorite so far as it can replicate live rock concerts and still play jazz ensembles accurately. A very good description.

X, thanks for sharing that find!

Loved reading everything in there! Very cool
 
Now, I have dreams of eight of those 5x8" woofers I got per side, 4 facing another 4, with the little SB65 on top.... all that baffleless.
Hmmm... the SB65 would be underpowered, for sure!

For the low end, that would be about the Sd size of a 21" sub.

Oh please, keep me sane.... :D
 
Recent interest in this thread is sort of encouraging me to set up another FAST system with this driver. It’s kind of fun driver to listen to as it goes really loud quick.

That’s absolutely fabulous!
I’m getting closer on My project.
I purchased 4-PRVs and going to try one vs two.
I just put the first coat of paint on and in the process of divorcing My JBLs
They’ve served their purpose well but on their Own they will flourish!
Very soon I will get to experience the FAST awesomeness!
 

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I want to like this driver, but the roller coaster ride starting at 2.5kHz seems quite wild.
That's when looking at the factory graph. Your measurements do not show such a wild ride, but just a small plateau at 6.5kHz.

I'll be hunting off axis measurements in your thread.
 
Some quick prototyping to tame that 7.5khz peak - a parallel filter of 0.12mH, 3.8uF (3.3 and 0.47 parallel) and about 35 ohms all in series with the driver - this is the 8 ohm version

The resistor can be varied to increase/decrease the peak

Preliminary listening shows that it has a slightly more bland presentation, but there is a loose connection somewhere in my setup, so maybe tomorrow i'll make a second filter set and listen to it in stereo
 

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I agree, I like smooth FR drivers too but this one is special. Off axis is not a problem and the benefit you get is immense clarity from the low distortion while play loud. Perfect for heavy metal or classical which demand high dynamic range, high peak SPL, and low distortion. Compare them to Fostex or Lowther responses. None of those can get this SPL though.