TPA3255 - all about DIY, Discussion, Design etc

[abraxalito]

I agree its confusing - nobody to my knowledge uses analog input classD without feedback, so that final sentence is crucial. Digital input classD is often found without feedback though - TI has some chipsets with feedback (they term this 'closed loop') and some without ('open loop').

 

[DPH]

You're not wrong about your confusion!

Think about the PWM-based proportional-to-bus-voltage-gain as part the internal loop gain of the amplifier, but then there's a pre-filter feedback network which sets the overall gain of the block. Since the error amp will dominate the internal loop gain, the small change in the class-D amp's gain with bus voltage will not materially affect the gain set by the feedback network.

From the outside as users of the chipamp, we are "stuck" with the already-established internal feedback network, so the gain is pinned to 21.5 dB

 

[irs20957]

tpa3255

Hi all
I build my amp TPA3255.
Input opamps full defferential THS4131, PSU MW LRS-350-48.

 

[mboxler]

You're not wrong about your confusion!

From the outside as users of the chipamp, we are "stuck" with the already-established internal feedback network, so the gain is pinned to 21.5 dB

Thanks guys! I've been studying passive circuits, but with the purchase of this EVM I've started studying active circuits. Feedback is slowly sinking in!

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, I created a 400Hz signal at .64 volts and measured the speaker out voltage. It was 15.27 volts, which equates to a 27.5 dB gain. Since I'm running this amp BTL, the output voltage would double vs se, which would account for the extra 6 dB.

Mike

 

[DPH]

Bingo -- right on the money, Mike.

irs20957 -- tidy bit of work there! Congrats.

 

[doctormord]

Input opamps full defferential THS4131, PSU MW LRS-350-48.

Nice, what Vref are you using THS413X?

 

[irs20957]

Thanks, not using Vref, only capacitor to GND

 

[29285]

To take full advantage of the specs of this fully differential amp, source impedance should be quite low. This will work fine with a balanced DAC current output - but with any other real sources?

 

[catle79bay]

What is considered a low output inpeadance? My foreplay was listed around 1300 ohms.

 

[irs20957]

To take full advantage of the specs of this fully differential amp, source impedance should be quite low. This will work fine with a balanced DAC current output - but with any other real sources?

Works great with a sound card EMU0204USB

 

[doctormord]

The EMU0204USB doesn't have differential outputs until modded.

 

[irs20957]

I do not use diff input completely, only one, the second one on the ground.

sorry for my bad english.

 

[29285]

What is considered a low output inpeadance? My foreplay was listed around 1300 ohms.

Depends on the resistor values around the differential amp.
For lowest noise figure you will find several 100 Ohms.
Have a look at the data sheet.

 

[irs20957]

Maybe for audio frequencies do not worry?

 

[irs20957]

Here is the scheme

 

[29285]

I would expect this to work even with >1k source impedance. The drawback is increased noise - but this will be quite low as well. All in all these noise figures of 1nV/sqrt(Hz) are more or less academic as in most real cases your audio source will contribute far more noise.

 

[xecluded]

Just put in my order for 3255 board. Can I use a 20V power supply instead of 48V. My speakers are very efficient so 20WPC is more than enough for me.

 

[irs20957]

for the tests I used a power supply from the laptop, 19 volts.

 

[DPH]

There's a minimum dropout voltage (15v?) that's specified in the 3255 datasheet. Stay north of that and you'll be golden.

 

[xecluded]

I've already ordered the Meanwell 48V supply. Just anxious to try it with wall wart power from my B1 pre while waiting hence the question.