after checking out Acme Klein Bottles i was wondering if the shape could be used as an enclosure for a fullrange driver possibly creating a backloaded horn assuming an exit is created.
i do want a klein stein for a beer mug!😛
i do want a klein stein for a beer mug!😛
Why not? Make a flat surface on the large part of the bottle for the driver and the open part becomes your horn. Not sure it would be any better but it has a novelty effect.
If you mount the diver in the opening, leave it sealed.
If you mount the diver in the opening, leave it sealed.
sy thanks for that link i guess it's been done in a larger scale then i was thinking of by a wide margin.
cal i was thinking the other way around; mount a small 2 or 3 inch wideband driver on the small (throat) opening and create exits around the driver into the large part (mouth).sealed could also work...
now i need to find a 3D printer!
or maybe just get some klein steins pour out some margarita's wait for spring and think on it somemore....
cal i was thinking the other way around; mount a small 2 or 3 inch wideband driver on the small (throat) opening and create exits around the driver into the large part (mouth).sealed could also work...
now i need to find a 3D printer!
or maybe just get some klein steins pour out some margarita's wait for spring and think on it somemore....
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A Klein bottle is closed if you put driver at mouth. In which case it will be kind of like a sealed TL (if long enough). One could mount driver on wall of bottle and let mouth/neck serve as vent in a BR or TL or BLH. The aesthetics would look great in a real blown glass enclosure so you can see the Klein bottle topology. Otherwise looks like a bottle with a loop handle.
Hi Turk
You might be interested to see this post:http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/166784-pictures-your-diy-pass-amplifier-182.html#post3438566
I asked him about it and it's just a scaled down version of the 'HUGE' one Mr.Pass designed.
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Ignore the fact the link says 'Pass Amps', Klein pic is about 1/2 way down the page.
You might be interested to see this post:http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/166784-pictures-your-diy-pass-amplifier-182.html#post3438566
I asked him about it and it's just a scaled down version of the 'HUGE' one Mr.Pass designed.
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Ignore the fact the link says 'Pass Amps', Klein pic is about 1/2 way down the page.
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sippy and sy like the big versions and cal and xrk don't lke the idea of "creating exits" around the driver to create a "horn loaded bass port". why?
klein stein or not i guess i need a drink!
klein stein or not i guess i need a drink!
I guess I don't understand concept of exits around driver? Driver at bottle mouth and holes around the mouth into main volume? That is actually closer to a mass loaded TL.
sorry no scanner no cad i hope the attached photo is ok to depict what i was thinking.
depending on size could it not be turned into a mid horn or mid bass perhaps?
i keep thinking of it like a long back loaded horn
depending on size could it not be turned into a mid horn or mid bass perhaps?
i keep thinking of it like a long back loaded horn
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If you read Mr.Pass's artical, he folded the horn the way he did because of space constraints....
Now, If you could get a glass klein blown and make it into a 'Nautaloss' style enclosure, that would be a really funky aesthetic.
Now, If you could get a glass klein blown and make it into a 'Nautaloss' style enclosure, that would be a really funky aesthetic.
i keep envisioning something more "steampunk" looking reminiscent of Western Electric theatre horns or "stained glass" style construction perhaps.
i wonder how much foamcore it would take to mock one up??
i wonder how much foamcore it would take to mock one up??
When I saw Hippy's 'Micro Klein', I sent him a pm asking for more details, quote:
He also said that the driver used had no details on the 2" drive unit he used other than it looked like a $20 Dayton.
He also said that the driver used had no details on the 2" drive unit he used other than it looked like a $20 Dayton.
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'Yeawotevva' - Vicky Pollard / Little Britain, 2000 and sumfink innit like.
Hi. I'm reopening this thread to ask about a klien Bottle enclosure I've seen on Thingiverse page to see if anyone has any ideas about it and how one might go about calculating/modeling this type of enclosure?
I'm thinking of printing one out to try with a decent 2" driver. But I've just found I have some TC9FD-18-08 on the shelf, so was wondering about scaling up this enclosure to try out. Any thoughts?
I'm thinking of printing one out to try with a decent 2" driver. But I've just found I have some TC9FD-18-08 on the shelf, so was wondering about scaling up this enclosure to try out. Any thoughts?
But with a geometry opposite of what you would really like.Kleinhorn opens up the bottom (both X’s and my pictures, and then sizing everything to be a uitably sized horn.
dave
There is a parametric equation for the Klein bottle that can be used to generate 3D models.
https://mathcurve.com/surfaces.gb/klein/klein.shtml
I have applied it to a 3D graphing program and it works.
https://mathcurve.com/surfaces.gb/klein/klein.shtml
I have applied it to a 3D graphing program and it works.