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PCB order for Goldmun clone

bigpanda:

I ordered 2 pair of boards fairly early in the process. One pair for me and one for a friend. At the time I assumed the boards would be tested. We are now finding out that is not the case. Therefore I am changing my order to 1 pair of boards. I don't feel comfortable risking my friends money.
 
Someone here on the forum informed me that the boards are going to be manufactured by PCBCART in China. Attached you find quotes for the Goldmund boards. One version is with HASL and the other one with immersion tin surface.

Note the prices are in Euro. For USD just multiply with 1.4.
The HASL version will cost 4,55 USD and the immersion tin surface one will cost 5,43 USD. Norbert Naguis and bigpanda charge you 17,50 USD per board. Thus their profit per board will be around 12 USD, total profit selling 226 boards will be 2712 USD.

This clearly shows that subscribers to the group buy will be seriously screwed.

This is not a group buy. This is rip off.


Have fun.
Lee

The boards in your quote are singel sided (one side) only.
The boards offered in the group buy are 2 sided. Offcource there will be a difference!!
 
I was informed that there are taxes because of paypall...5 bucks

more 8 percent..brazilian bank tranference tax...well, ther are things i never knew about...well..there are costs...seems expensive but ask the one about all costs he had...if you have not already asked him about.

My boards have a group buy too...but you can ask my manufacturer the cost price to check...you will feel pity of me and may send me a piece of cake and some groceries to compensate me to work for free.

I was surprised, there are other costs, not only board manufacturer cost.

If you check my prices in brazil, they are lower than the prices offered to the international community..first reason is shipment cost..in brazil is cheap.... to international the price is from 10 to 16 USD..also for brazil we have no pay pall and bank taxes... people send money on line from bank to bank and no cost in such kind of operation...also we are manufacturing boards here..no international money transference....prices in Brasil are lower because cost is lower too.

Check everything not to be unfair..be carefull to check if you have not already done that...i know the value is huge, seems that things are not normal, but please, check things once again till you have sure about all costs the group buy opener have.

I have not readed the entire thread..so, i may be well informed about what is going on...

regards,

Carlos
 
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PCBcart quote for 250pcs - $ 1,111.37 + Shipping + taxes ..

Total GB PCB ordered = 113 pairs x 35$ = $3,955
 

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The boards in your quote are singel sided (one side) only.
The boards offered in the group buy are 2 sided. Offcource there will be a difference!!

Wrong. Read again. Put on your glasses first.

PCBcart quote for 250pcs - $ 1,111.37 + Shipping + taxes ..

Total GB PCB ordered = 113 pairs x 35$ = $3,955

Exactly, you got it.



It's a pity I can't read what Nagys wrote since the mods deleted it. If someone has the original text please send to me via pm.
Norbert, if you have personal issues with me better contact me via pm. This would save you from administrative measures.
 
Wrong. Read again. Put on your glasses first.



Exactly, you got it.



It's a pity I can't read what Nagys wrote since the mods deleted it. If someone has the original text please send to me via pm.
Norbert, if you have personal issues with me better contact me via pm. This would save you from administrative measures.

I would also like Nagy's deleted posts, if someone could send me via pm.

Lee Knatta, I'm surprised you are not in the SinBin😕

I believe you are the main instigator of the "reputation killing". My issue with you is from an outsider's point of view. I have read every post of the thread over a 3 day period. I have also read the associated threads. From some of your posts you have evidently NOT read the whole threads, but have jumped in with accusations.

I will not enter discussions with you about your Ee qualifications or your experience. I only take issue with your methods. --- It is wrong to make accusations of dishonesty in order to gain ground on someone else's venture.

Do you not realize that you are driven by a need to win support over Bigpanda and Nagys?

Chill please.
 
I'm up quite late and I'm going to bed now. See you all in about 8 hours.

During that time - with the different time zones - I hope to be able to see some progress on the board front. I would like to hear from BigPanda about the order status, I would also like to see that matters have calmed down, I would like a copy of Nagy's deleted post in my inbox and I want to see many more 'smiley faces' in the posts.

Bear in mind, even if the Goldmund Clone goes Apeshit you will still need to revert to Nagys original drawings!

Respect people,,,,Respect for each other.

Be calm, be safe, be respectful.

Stephen logging out.
 
I believe you are the main instigator of the "reputation killing". My issue with you is from an outsider's point of view. I have read every post of the thread over a 3 day period. I have also read the associated threads. From some of your posts you have evidently NOT read the whole threads, but have jumped in with accusations.

Correct, I'm the person who most aggressively and continuously points out what's wrong here. This is not intended to be reputation killing. Nagys does his best to ruin his reputation. I just assist a bit. If he behaved a different way he wouldn't ruin his reputation. By the way: Somehow I ruin my reputation here.

Unlike you I did not only follow the threads for only three days but for several weeks and read many hundred posts. Maybe not every single one but I've seen every page of the lengthy thread and I also read the whole group buy thread.

I will not enter discussions with you about your Ee qualifications or your experience. I only take issue with your methods. --- It is wrong to make accusations of dishonesty in order to gain ground on someone else's venture.

Do you not realize that you are driven by a need to win support over Bigpanda and Nagys?

Chill please.

My engineering skills aren't to be discussed here and mostly irrelevant to my activity here. Ask the other engineers whether they agree or not. This is what matters, not whether I have a degree or not. I can assure you I have a lot of business with PCBs and know what I'm talking about. My methods here aren't nice, I agree. I'm very mean here. Maybe it needs something wrong to fight something wrong.

I agree I would like to see a happy end here. It's up to Nagys and bigpanda.
 
A single prototype could have avoided all this situation from happening. Also a better explanation about the costs involved. I am sure that everybody here is hoping to see the results, and trying to help somehow. But some guys could have been more polite and less imperious.
Here goes the smilies, Reeler! 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Cheers,
Max.
 
the deleted post from Nagys, stated that everyone who posted subsequently in this thread would be removed from the Group Buy list.

I see 14 Members who have removed themselves from the Group Buy list including Nagys and myself.
 
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Lee Knatta, I'm surprised you are not in the SinBin😕

Ditto

I see 14 Members who have removed themselves from the Group Buy list including Nagys and myself.

You were on the list?

I agree I would like to see a happy end here.

hmmm, doesn't look to be your motive.

What is happening here

It's pretty obvious if you have been following both threads. Some have taken it personal for not liking how Nagys went about this thread. Sad part it looks like most of the problems with the pcb had been worked out then the pcb policeman came in and questioned bigpanda's creditbility. To me bigpanda lost his credibility by not responding to the allegations, bigpanda?

Brad
 
Things were very clear from the beginning: the PCB design was done during the GB and people involved were asking several times to the GB to check the design. Maybe somebody arrived late and misunderstood this point. I’m in and I assume this risk.

People who want a no risk board seems a better idea to wait for a next GB when the boards are tested.

People involved in this development spent a lot of time and effort and deserve respect. I hope they come back soon an this to continue in the direction it had.
 
...To the contrary we bin & ban lewd language, getting personal etc... :cop:

Selective quoting by accident or not will not get your argument far thanh1973. Especially by not personally asking the motive of judgement of the mod who gave you just one day, but taking it here, making assumptions, when its prohibited by strict rule. You should have understood by reading my warnings that we don't moderate for what its done as transactions or civil arguments here, look in the main page, GB Its under commercial sector. We do moderate getting on each other's neck though as I clearly stated in my very first post #235 here. No accident SY saw it and said some of you disregarded a straight warning and continued in a bad manner. Nagy's, Krisfr, and you, got the bin solely on style and language of personal attack. If someone argues this and that is not transparent or whatever else happens in a group order its not our business. You people decide what's a good deal, a great service, added value, or not. The defendant could use argument, he had plenty of points to simply clear. How many times you can count ''civil'' when you use the rest of my quotes? That is the only thing we watch here. Your behaviour is offensive again even when straight out of the bin. I let the other mods judge what I wrote and what you understood so they bin us together if I told its a free arena and you read it correctly.