Official M2 schematic

I have used motorun caps for crossowers, I have some 25uF but only 2 of them. Anyhow the 10uf wima mkp10 250v where the largest I could fit between kemet caps and the top plate. What is the theory regarding bypassing the electrolyts, why is it necessary and for that matter why large motorrun caps?
 
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btw. worth noting ..... at least from my perspective :

Papa's B1 , and all iterations with same level of simplicity - are cheap way to high end sound (in positive meaning)

if you want absolute level with same approach , then DC coupling is a must , with elaborate PSU (ZM preferring shunt regs) , also decent pcb

so , B1 and Boozhound buffer can give you general taste of things

if you do it in more proper way , it'll work and sound better

if nothing else , you'll have few evenings of great fun , building it :rofl:
 
ZM are you hinting at the pumpkin variations ( pumpkin and shunty - you published before me :) ) ? Id like to build a ss preamp at some point in time. I need to sort out phono and dac first.

@silasmellor see picture in current tread #2983 Official M2 schematic The wimas are just connected across tha last 4 caps.
btw. worth noting ..... at least from my perspective :

Papa's B1 , and all iterations with same level of simplicity - are cheap way to high end sound (in positive meaning)

if you want absolute level with same approach , then DC coupling is a must , with elaborate PSU (ZM preferring shunt regs) , also decent pcb

so , B1 and Boozhound buffer can give you general taste of things

if you do it in more proper way , it'll work and sound better

if nothing else , you'll have few evenings of great fun , building it :rofl:
 
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Pumpkin and Shunty are older project ... primary intended as thingie to enable balanced F4 to go Berserk

what I meant is looking at concept of Iron Pre and Iron Pumpkin (both in plural - SE and Bal iterations)

everyone can make them , concept is old as telephone , and if you have few JFets laying around , some nice repeater xformer from surplus (or Edcor , Jensen , Cinemag) or decent AVC ...... you can make it even on veroboard , even tweaking it here and there with time

so , nothing new under the sun , well worth to roll a stone or two from time to time , looking what's under ...... and what's nice , often you have all parts in drawer already
 
Sorry I got lost in the pumpkin & iron variations. At some point in time I would like to have a fully remote - iron turtle pumpkin variation pre :)
And yes I probable already have many of the parts make a DCB1 type buffer for my autoformers other than the supply parts. Mesmerizer is one, your Iron pres are also an option. I really get lost in the many threads here.
 
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M2 PCBoards are now available in the diyAudio store, FYI

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re: Right channel is running away

Maybe a promising first line of inquiry, might be to learn whether the "input side" of the bias control loop is operating correctly. That's R10-R14 plus Q5-Q7, the complete circuit which includes the LED portion of the optoisolator.

It might be extremely revealing, to measure the LED current for the good channel and also for the bad channel. You can get this by measuring the voltage across R11, and then use Ohm's Law: Current = Voltage/Resistance.

In this case, LED current = R11 current = R11_voltage / R11_resistance and the M2 schematic tells us that R11 = 221 ohms.

Are the LED currents wildly different between the good channel and the bad channel? If so that's a giant clue.

It could also provide more insight, to directly measure the LED voltage (positive DMM lead on Q5 pin1, negative DMM lead on Q5 pin2) for the good channel and also for the bad channel. A screwy LED voltage on the bad channel, provides more clues.

BTW you'll want to ask for debug suggestions & recommendations from people who have successfully built M2s using the Tea-bag PCBs. They may have encountered this exact problem already, and can hand you a solution straightaway.

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M2x offers the PCB option of installing a 220uF 10V bipolar coupling capacitor (Nichicon UES) in series between JFET buffer and Edcor transformer primary. The M2 circuitry already includes one coupling capacitor, it's called "C2" in the official schematic attached to post #1 of this thread. If you don't mind one coupling capacitor, surely you won't mind two of them??

It also offers the possibility of adjusting the trimpot for just-the-right-amount of 2nd order harmonic distortion (if you go for that sort of thing), having just the right phase, without worrying about the resulting output offset voltage. The new 220uF removes every trace of output offset voltage. Twirl the trimmer however you want; output offset remains zero.