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View Poll Results: Your favorite 3-4 fullrange driver
Scanspeak 10F 8424 10 27.03%
Dayton RS100 3 8.11%
Fountek FR88ex 3 8.11%
Other 3-4 thats flat response 1-10k 21 56.76%
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Old 24th May 2020, 10:10 AM   #111
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Again, there’s something to be said for the subjective......professional studio monitors rarely employ aluminum midrange/midwoofers.
Exactly.
My vote would be for paper/coated paper. And... the sound should be "cheap" if the task is to replicate everyone listenning setup. 90% of the music listenning folks for everyday use simple BT speakers with 2W chineese designed driver. The drivers mentioned in this thread are 10x head and shoulders above them.

Another thing: also not forget people who listen music in cars - you would not believe how much sound differs between different OEM setups. From my current experience 2017 and 2018 Volvo and VW, both in the same car size class, with basic audio setup, sound so SO much different.
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Old 24th May 2020, 11:35 AM   #112
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It’s a strange process for we mix engineers and Mastering engineers have it tough too.....they have to Master the tracks with multiple versions for all the different Codecs used by the streaming services.....a relatively recent but profound change in how we receive music.

For mix engineers, the mix has to translate to as many different systems and devices as possible as well as mono. Of course, how we approach it is also dependent on the genre and where sonic sacrifices can be made from one device to another. But yes, every track has to pass the ‘drive to work’ test for me.....that’s fresh ears and a deep listen, then into the studio for any changes while the experience is still fresh in my mind.

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Old 26th May 2020, 10:06 PM   #113
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Lets start hereL Fs = 82.768 and 62.409.

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Thanks.

Something objectively useful that shows variance and quality control problems.

It could be that there were two different "runs" in the production. The tested 82 Hz is remarkably similar to the W4-2142's tested 85 Hz vs 60 Hz spec..

TB SPEAKERS W4-2142 (Full-range 4", 8 Ohm, 50 Wmax)

I'd have sent that one back to the supplier (..but I'm guessing return-shipping is a problem in this case, and also a problem with trying to resell them).
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Old 26th May 2020, 10:40 PM   #114
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Not the 1st time i have had drivers thru here with similar QC issues.

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Old 27th May 2020, 11:26 PM   #115
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So I went off the reservation a bit and ordered a set of Tang Band W5-2143 Saturday. They should be here tomorrow and i’ll run them through a breakin cycle and post measurements afterwards.

I’m gonna start with the stand alone Auratone mixcube format.....small sealed box. May go with an IKEA bowl sphere if the edge diffraction looks rough.
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Old 28th May 2020, 12:44 AM   #116
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I should mention that the B80 is an excellent full range driver. Really nice highs and priced very well compared to ScanSpeak.
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Old 28th May 2020, 03:08 AM   #117
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I should mention that the B80 is an excellent full range driver. Really nice highs and priced very well compared to ScanSpeak.
Agreed .........the response on that driver of exceptional for the money and Visaton has a keen ear for developing full range drivers....the B200 is a legend across the pond.

User testimonials, 3rd Party measures and Tang Band pedigree were enough to give the 2143 a spin. If they loose, Im sure I can recoup enough of the initial investment with a member here or over on Tech Talk.
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Old 28th May 2020, 03:21 AM   #118
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VISATON B80-8 (Extended-range 3.3", 8 Ohm, 50 Wmax)

It's not great as far as low freq. extension is concerned, so best above 600 Hz and not bad above 300 Hz. It's also got a fair bit of pressure loss off-axis in those last 2 octaves at the top.

On the other hand it does have that increase in pressure 1-2.5 kHz that makes it much easier to get a flat response on-baffle.
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Old 28th May 2020, 05:35 AM   #119
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The lack of low freq extension is why I excluded it. Would make a great midrange or mid/tweet in a FAST

The B100 extends lower, but ragged in the top octaves. Probably a lively and enjoyable driver for the Hifi crowd though....or another excellent midrange.

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