XXV Sampson power up issues

I'm currently working on an XXV Sampson, the power supply section comes on and relays click and I get a green status light. When i probe the FDA 24N40F output FETs, Q19-Q16R and Q11-Q13R are shorted, the same FETs on opposite sides of the board which is too coincidental so I get the feeling the output driver board could have an issue.

Mr. Perry Babin sent me a schematic of a similar board and reading it without any electronics repair training is proving to be a tough task but I'm slowly researching the components but I could really use some assistance with this if someone could lend some.

Also, if I'm not mistaken the FDA 24N40F wasn't the output FETs on the board before it was sent for repairs this last time. Is this component a proper FET for this amplifier?

As always I'm very grateful for any help I can get. I will try to post the best pics my phone can take and if there are any more needed I'm happy to take more. Thanks again:up:
 
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last pic shows FETs that are testing as shorted
 

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The 24N40F has been used a long time. Someone else should post if they know something better.

Do you have ANY experience repairing amps?

When any FETs fail, it can damage their driver IC which can drive voltage back into the 12v regulator, destroying other IC and possibly causing other FETs to fail.

With shorted FETs, it's odd that the power supply will power up.

What's the rail voltage in the amp?
 
i removed the FMU36S and FMU36R rectifiers so that i could troubleshoot the input and output sections separately and isolate the issue.

I have very little experience in electronics repair but once I get a few issues with my house taken care of I intend on taking classes at a local college to learn more to better understand it. For now I'm mostly depending on the Amplifier Repair Basics section on BCAE, YouTube videos by BareVids, and now this forum. I'm waiting for a hard drive with Windows 7 installed to arrive for a seperate pc I have so that I can purchase the Amplifier Repair Tutorial on BCAE.
 
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What is it about the rail voltage do you want to know?

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Without the rectifiers, you can measure the DC voltage on the gates of the PS FETs to see if they FETs are being driven. That can be done with a multimeter set to DC volts.

With a scope, you can look at the input to the rectifiers.

If you're concerned about the vias, You could connect the rectifier legs to the board with wire jumpers. It's easier to desolder the single wires than to pull the rectifiers.