You already stated your opinion, it doesn't gain any substance by just repeating yourself, quoting off topic and/or quoting my words incompletely, as you just did. By the way, it was you who started the use of the word tweak, adding your judgement to it of it being just another unverified audiophile one. Easy judgement for you, based on nothing but a shallow opinion.
This is really getting silly. Yes, precisely, I used the word. And if you look at the definition, you see that it is an appropriate description. You were the one taking issue with it.
And which part of "unverified audiophile tweak" do you disagree with? The word "audiophile"?
Again, if I state "a penguin can't fly", it is not a derogative statement, it is a simple statement of fact.
Unless we can get back to discussing the topic of the thread, without childish attempt at personal slurs, I will wish you a good day and call "over and out".
With 'unserious measurements' Joro constructed few excellent converters..
Where are your projects?!
Exactly, the topic off the thread has nothing to do with if penguins can fly, how much is 1+1, jumping off a 100ft cliff, how a dictionary defines the word tweaking... Thanks for finally recognizing that.
Someone else did try that out anyway and the results are surely undeniable and undenied.
That is not the case here about the proposed mod: as i said, until now we have 2 users finding improvements and 1 user finding no improvement.
So, basing on a simple mathematical consideration, thinking it will not lead to any improvement without having tested for himself is surely a prejudice IMHO.
But as i said, the tests number we actually have is too poor to be absolutely sure about the mod (especially considering that results are not univocal and that no test was blind, too), so i think it's surely time to stop discussing about words or thoughts and simply, very simply finally start blind testing...
Those tests was ridiculous.. for serious comparison one must have two converters, with and without 'tweak'..
You think that someone can hear something that can not be measured?!
We are still at this point of discussion? What did we talk about in the last week?
How can you be so sure it can't be measured, if only one single attempt has been made and in a way that could be improper?
Anyway, to answer to your question more widely: YES, i don't think we always are able to measure something that exists, at least until we fully understand its nature.
We could not measure certain subatomic particles in 1950, but they were surely there anyway...
If you don't know well what to measure, how can you measure it?
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Yes, it's getting tiresome. I would like to hear more about Joros products and how good they are.
Sorry about that, i agree with you.
But if there's a way to even better already exceptional Joro's products, i'm very interested about that.
WaveIO highly recommended or Amanero.
Would not buy cheaper modules since you will loose the quality of the Xmos chip, since the pure board design and cheaper parts.
I think there is nothing wrong with the board made by JL sounds, Joro discussed in this thread... 🙂
gr GJ
Hi,
The question with cheaper design is purely philosophical one, and it's achieved also with lower assigned value, which every manufacturer determines for himself. I think it's in competence of each one in this forum to make a rough estimation of the value of a board, of course the "know-how" is not taken into account.
I use digikey and mouser as a suppliers for the board described in this thread. I hope that these suppliers are sufficient guarantee for origin of the components.
Regards,
Joro
The question with cheaper design is purely philosophical one, and it's achieved also with lower assigned value, which every manufacturer determines for himself. I think it's in competence of each one in this forum to make a rough estimation of the value of a board, of course the "know-how" is not taken into account.
I use digikey and mouser as a suppliers for the board described in this thread. I hope that these suppliers are sufficient guarantee for origin of the components.
Regards,
Joro
I did meant to say avoid cheap Xmos boards, since they very popular too many designers around with badly implemented boards.
Joro's xmos board is a well priced and carefully designed one.
I thought that was obvious in this tread.
Regards
Danico
Danico,
I thought jou did! But it is sometimes also good to explicitly state so. 🙂
Gr GJ
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/236028-xmos-dsd-384-khz-32bit-usb-52.html#post4446377
Hello vulejov, really nice build...
I'm planning something very similar, Can I ask where you got the really nice tactile switch button caps? I assume you got the mechanical layout drawing from the JLSounds guys - if so I'll ask them to include a copy when I place my order.
Thanks
Ray
Just wanted to drop a line. Did a bit of geeking out over the weekend. I was able to get my phone to be a digital source (coaxial input) for the Mosconi DSP6to8. Works great with my Moto X pure, it is powered by a portable USB charger with V+ open to the micro usb connector on the phone. Works perfectly with all the audio apps I've tried, Pandora, Tidal, USB Audio Player, Poweramp that provide software volume control, and can use the DSP6to8 controller for hardware volume control. Easy setup with the 6to8 once I got the SPDIF out working. Thanks for the HiFi in my ride!
