Two different worlds two different tweeters.
World 1. Hiquphon OW1 by far the best 3/4" tweeter if not one of the best all around tweeters available. Outstanding detail, low distortion when used within it's limits, and phenomenal off axis response. Not only that but they are very transparent, without any real coloring to the tonal character.
World 2. BG Neo8, although not easy to work with passively, when ran actively and the 10K hump taken care of along with a slight boost at 16k these are one of the most natural sounding mid/tweeters I've ever implemented into a dipole design. I run 6 of these per side in a dipole line array mated to 5.5" mid-basses and I'll say that sometimes it's scary how real the reproduction sounds, and I've built many speakers in my 25yrs of DIY audio.
World 1. Hiquphon OW1 by far the best 3/4" tweeter if not one of the best all around tweeters available. Outstanding detail, low distortion when used within it's limits, and phenomenal off axis response. Not only that but they are very transparent, without any real coloring to the tonal character.
World 2. BG Neo8, although not easy to work with passively, when ran actively and the 10K hump taken care of along with a slight boost at 16k these are one of the most natural sounding mid/tweeters I've ever implemented into a dipole design. I run 6 of these per side in a dipole line array mated to 5.5" mid-basses and I'll say that sometimes it's scary how real the reproduction sounds, and I've built many speakers in my 25yrs of DIY audio.
Did you compare those to RAAL?
I currently have the 70-20XR but i wandering if i could sell those and buy cheaper one without loosing all the raal qualities.
have you compared it to the OW3 or OW4? They look, on paper, to be a tad better
As alluded to earlier, I know of no better tweeter for the money. See pic of right channel HT system.
Next bang for the buck is maybe it's cousin the SS1 II
Product information:SS1II Hi-end Tweeter
As far as expensive tweeters go, well, that's for another time. 😉
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Cal. In Canuckski $$$$ (ballpark) what are these and their cousins worth per pair?
In CAD, I paid less for a pair of tweeters than I did for a 12 pack of cold beer. They are stupid cheap. I can't tell you more other than when I did a side by side with the others in my collection (good selection) that they had less listening fatigue than a lot with a higher price tag. No measurements, just listening. The ribbons I have might have been better but they ought to be considering the price tag. I think HiVi tweeters woefully underrated.
Again, no measurements, just listening. 🙂
Only to the OW3 and the price difference was not warranted by much of an audible sound quality difference so I went back to the OW1.
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I have heard some "pretty good" sounds coming from a stand mounter I built that got re-drivered with Fountek Neo CD 3.0s crossed at 2500 (2nd. order) to 5.5" Morel mid bases. Mother Hubbard
I have heard some "pretty good" sounds coming from a stand mounter I built that got re-drivered with Fountek Neo CD 3.0s crossed at 2500 (2nd. order) to 5.5" Morel mid bases. Mother Hubbard
I've used the neo3 and the Raal extensively. Not the 70-20xr, but the 140-15. Neo3 is great, but the Raal is a keeper.
How'd you get a 70-20 anyway? I'm direct, so I'm allowed to buy them, but they are not really for DIY.
Incidentally, I am making a new Raal order and I might be able to help out a few DIYers get some 140-15 or 70-10 for a nice discount. I offered last time, and it worked out well for a few guys. PM me if interested.
Greg
A lot of OW1 and ribbon fans here. Has anyone tired the Be ScanSpeak?
I am working on the theory that excellent results can be had from moderate priced tweeters if used very well. The higher the price, the easier to use well. Thoghts om this?
I am working on the theory that excellent results can be had from moderate priced tweeters if used very well. The higher the price, the easier to use well. Thoghts om this?
The ScanSpeak "Beryllium" is a great low distorting tweeter, but it's 2.5 times more expensive than the D3004/660000 AirCirc tweeter that is virtually the same driver, but uses a textile dome.
Both are great tweeters and it's more a matter of personal taste and preferences and of course "budget".
A more expensive tweeter doesn’t necessarily mean it would be easier to use!
ScanSpeak Textile Dome vs Beryllium Dome!
ScanSpeak D3004/660000
ScanSpeak D3004/664000
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/Göran
I guess we have come a long way from the radio shack 2 way 8" with a 2" cone tweeter. They sounded good with no fatigue. I thought it was great for a 12 year old's stereo.
They actually still sell it??!!
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=270-252
They actually still sell it??!!
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=270-252
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Air Motion Transformer
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...OOrU0QXKyJWTCQ&ved=0CIwBELAE&biw=1252&bih=849
If this is too expensive a Motorola horn pietzo crossed over at 10 kHz is surprisingly good and cheap . Forget the nasty disco speakers that use them . They can make superb super tweeters .
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...OOrU0QXKyJWTCQ&ved=0CIwBELAE&biw=1252&bih=849
If this is too expensive a Motorola horn pietzo crossed over at 10 kHz is surprisingly good and cheap . Forget the nasty disco speakers that use them . They can make superb super tweeters .
I really liked Selenium ST324, no longer available...
Selenium ST324 Super Tweeter ABS Housing 264-360
Others have made expensive clones of the original
JBL design, but this cheap plastic version was best.
Proof that diffraction can be put to work in your favor.
If the sound isn't the same off-axis, you are wasting
your time. You fight a problem cannot be equalized...
Soft domes work great too, if you don't need any sort
of efficiency or high SPL.
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I would be interested to hear both AMT and Lineaum.
Selenium ST324 Super Tweeter ABS Housing 264-360
Others have made expensive clones of the original
JBL design, but this cheap plastic version was best.
Proof that diffraction can be put to work in your favor.
If the sound isn't the same off-axis, you are wasting
your time. You fight a problem cannot be equalized...
Soft domes work great too, if you don't need any sort
of efficiency or high SPL.
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I would be interested to hear both AMT and Lineaum.
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