Wow.... that is delirious. And not what I think. I do wonder how you came to such a conclusion. Is that just a punchline? Cause your last phrase has really no sense. At least for I. We can désagréable it is okay.If that is the meaning, why are you born at all?
It would all be much simpler if you (and the rest of us) weren't here.
It is senseless, really.
Jan
My phrase has sense, one can be slavered by different ways. One of it is to believe magic wordings because not to have the possibility to question that magic thinking. Or what some others people want you to believe and it begins in the childhood when your parents explain to us we are inside an exceptionnel communauty of chosen... what a joke. Pay for the cult, the Nation, the village sorcery, etc...
For instance what you coralate before or répeated from an author which théories are controversal, with your own beliefs IS an autoslaverybias. A magic shortcut to confort à belief.
And btw it has really no sense this time. It is just magic thinking, imho.
Dépression is another form of autoslavery, be it organic or epigenetic. But at the opposit of lack of culture, it is not about believing. You really needs others' helps To free you. THAT has sensé.
Do you think dépressions begun with the monotheisms ? You said the beginning of self consciousness ? Comon....
That is an interesting discussion but I fear we have to stop here as it is against the rules and imo it is just à cultural thing you took to coralate 2 things that are not.
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Mourning, that is à feeled lack of life of the beloved is Sympaths feeling.
It gives you à hard lesson of the meaning of life.
It gives you à hard lesson of the meaning of life.
Just logical. You said that the purpose of life, or meaning, is to be free and not a slave.Wow.... that is delirious.
That's nonsense. You wouldn't have that issue if you weren't here.
So why are you here, what is your purpose? Not 'what has my preference' (be free), but the purpose?
You haven't replied to that at all.
Jan
No because your question and conclusion have no sense Jan.
I think you missed my dialectic point about that, read few posts above. And I answered j'utilise in the pist above as well about what you conclued on my input is not understood. Not my point.
A question is not argument, just à dialectic artefact to reverse the chargé w/o any progress in the exchange process.
I think you missed my dialectic point about that, read few posts above. And I answered j'utilise in the pist above as well about what you conclued on my input is not understood. Not my point.
A question is not argument, just à dialectic artefact to reverse the chargé w/o any progress in the exchange process.
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The question of why we are here, what is our purpose, makes no sense?
Wow, you are discrediting several centuries of thinking by recognized big brains.
You are cancelling the entire discipline of philosophy.
Kant, Nietsche, Camus, I can go on for an hour.
BTW I did not give any conclusion, simply because I don't know either.
I don't think this discussion will lead to anything useful.
Wish you all the best,
Jan
Wow, you are discrediting several centuries of thinking by recognized big brains.
You are cancelling the entire discipline of philosophy.
Kant, Nietsche, Camus, I can go on for an hour.
BTW I did not give any conclusion, simply because I don't know either.
I don't think this discussion will lead to anything useful.
Wish you all the best,
Jan
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That is à joke Jan. I am collège high school grasuate philosophy Sorbone. Literally learnt from pre socratixs till post phénoménologie, plus all the fields that gravitate around, sociologie, historiographie, anrhropology, epistimology. to name à few.
I try to explain people this question is an anthropomorphism by didacict inputs to walk a path.. you totally missed the point. So keep for you the not understood corpus I studied hardly. Btw I talked of Kant. Ah Camus us not à philosoph, that is good literarure.
You can make an hour, I studied with among the best, and it is not about an hour of talking.
So indeed, there is no point to talk with you, just because really you seem to have missed what you read the casual way. Your illustration of the anthropologiqt is quite luminous with the conclusion just after, to me.
Bye. I quit and let you to your non understood philosophy. I really think you missread le cause you difficulty to jump with no confusion between concepts. Cause you don't rule them. So your associations are hazardous and anthropo centred... The discussion here us level of 18 yo french baccalauréat, that is already good level vis à vis of what we see elswhere. I am in France. Certainly not high school degree.
At least I tried à dialogic progression...not understood alas.
Okay indeed there is no point to continue. I quite.
I try to explain people this question is an anthropomorphism by didacict inputs to walk a path.. you totally missed the point. So keep for you the not understood corpus I studied hardly. Btw I talked of Kant. Ah Camus us not à philosoph, that is good literarure.
You can make an hour, I studied with among the best, and it is not about an hour of talking.
So indeed, there is no point to talk with you, just because really you seem to have missed what you read the casual way. Your illustration of the anthropologiqt is quite luminous with the conclusion just after, to me.
Bye. I quit and let you to your non understood philosophy. I really think you missread le cause you difficulty to jump with no confusion between concepts. Cause you don't rule them. So your associations are hazardous and anthropo centred... The discussion here us level of 18 yo french baccalauréat, that is already good level vis à vis of what we see elswhere. I am in France. Certainly not high school degree.
At least I tried à dialogic progression...not understood alas.
Okay indeed there is no point to continue. I quite.
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The Immortal Jellyfish >
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THIS IS MY LAST POST INTO THIS THREAD
Because I am getting older, it is hard to place an exact age of point. I think it was between 7 and 14. [ it also seemed like forever ]
I had this feeling that I had existing knowledge and was only learning words & numbers to be able to express and explain things.
I have a strange memory from kindergarten. We were gluing stars to paper >
After gluing one or two stars, the adult asked me - "Do you think you should put more on" ? > I thought, how can you ask me such a question?
It was as if I recognized that I hadn't learnt all the 'words & numbers' yet , so , HOW COULD YOU ASK ME SUCH A QUESTION.
Regarding existing/passed-on information, about 30 years ago, I 'coined' this phrase to my understanding > "DNA Sub-code" >
It turns out that my 'sub-code' understanding is directly related to RNA physics & research. There is indeed a form of memory encoded into cells.
There is a point about just how small things/differences can be. It turns out that there is actually a threshold-point where things switch to QUANTUM.
I have experienced TELEPATHY twice in my life !!
Regarding things "experienced", there is a very primitive part of the brain called the Amygdala. This is the part that directly connects to Fight & Flight.
This part of the brain also wants to learn - so it never forgets.
Due to a string of unfortunate & un-fair events over roughly 10 years, my Amygdala became over-stimulated due to not enough time to settle/recover.
As a result, I live with a quite an astonishing [ but very clever ] medication situation. I am lucky that I live in the best Country in the World.
The pinnacle of my life's learning & understanding culminated in an equation that started in word form. It took me even more time to
translate the words into mathematical symbols. [ I never expected to arrive at such place ]
Because the equation turns out to describe multiple things, I am NOT going to spell them out > It is for you to know or learn.
Here is the Equation,
and peace to you all
Because I am getting older, it is hard to place an exact age of point. I think it was between 7 and 14. [ it also seemed like forever ]
I had this feeling that I had existing knowledge and was only learning words & numbers to be able to express and explain things.
I have a strange memory from kindergarten. We were gluing stars to paper >
After gluing one or two stars, the adult asked me - "Do you think you should put more on" ? > I thought, how can you ask me such a question?
It was as if I recognized that I hadn't learnt all the 'words & numbers' yet , so , HOW COULD YOU ASK ME SUCH A QUESTION.
Regarding existing/passed-on information, about 30 years ago, I 'coined' this phrase to my understanding > "DNA Sub-code" >
It turns out that my 'sub-code' understanding is directly related to RNA physics & research. There is indeed a form of memory encoded into cells.
There is a point about just how small things/differences can be. It turns out that there is actually a threshold-point where things switch to QUANTUM.
I have experienced TELEPATHY twice in my life !!
Regarding things "experienced", there is a very primitive part of the brain called the Amygdala. This is the part that directly connects to Fight & Flight.
This part of the brain also wants to learn - so it never forgets.
Due to a string of unfortunate & un-fair events over roughly 10 years, my Amygdala became over-stimulated due to not enough time to settle/recover.
As a result, I live with a quite an astonishing [ but very clever ] medication situation. I am lucky that I live in the best Country in the World.
The pinnacle of my life's learning & understanding culminated in an equation that started in word form. It took me even more time to
translate the words into mathematical symbols. [ I never expected to arrive at such place ]
Because the equation turns out to describe multiple things, I am NOT going to spell them out > It is for you to know or learn.
Here is the Equation,
and peace to you all
Yes, I agree, but please note that in my view there are also different levels of knowledge, some of which are not related to logic.Knowing is always better than believing.
Furthermore, there are also so-called materialistic people...
However, for a part of people it seems that logic is the key to every answer, but as many others know this is not the case.
Everyone has their own experience, and everyone because of their experience believes in something that gives them safety, certainty and constitutes a lifeline when needed.
Without taking anything away from the fundamental importance of logic, my very personal vision of things is that the human race is in a condition that - if correctly and wisely analyzed - alone is also the explanation for the different answers and the different attitudes and beliefs of each.
Everything comes from ignorance, in my opinion, not only of the laws of physics and logic, but from ignorance of what the world and the universe in which we are immersed truly are.
In my opinion, ignorance leads to insecurity and the need for certainties belongs to each of us.
There are those who take refuge in logic or in everything is called science, and those in philosophy, or in spirituality (which as everyone should know does not pertain to religion).
Not all of us are "able" to follow the path of the heart, even if it is anyway an universal heritage.
The more ignorant a person is (of course, I'm not referring to anyone) the more arrogant they are, often.
And they think that their (limited) logic is the answer to all questions, since it's easy and gives a sense of comfort.
The more a person "knows" the more humble they become, generally speaking.
What I think needs to be realized in this wonderful thread is that the answer to this question cannot come from logic, but from heart.
In fact, the meaning of something is something that necessarily must involve various and different disciplines and not least the sense of morality, and as already said the OP is certainly not the first to have asked that question.
In my view, it is a question to which one responds with a feeling, not with reason and logic since no one knows the real answer.
And no one will convince me otherwise.
Because mine is a feeling, not a belief.
😍
I don't agree, whatever I understand where you go. Let say from an individual point of view it can be rigth If your verity for yourself and no one should stop you to believe it if you feel better with it. It is your freedom (not the Freedom, you are not made free from the universal side of the question)
someone said it in the thread sense of life is not the sense of one's life. We all agree without sign of else évidence or being in a sect.
Feeling like believing is subjective and individual. when it becomes à group thing, it is group delirium. And soon others enroll you in that train.
We can not exchange if behind the words people don't share the same définition of them and the concepts. What you say sounds good, cool. But it is false from the point of view of trying to answer to the question from à angle where it involves someone else as an exposed question is not a monolog with oneself.
Most of the people are indeed in a monolog here. Moral, humility, etc have nothing to see here. I should say many are in the two cents moralistic answer and à touch sometimes of false humility.
If now we change the angle and are in the reassurance, i.e. because one thinks an answer whatever it is wrong is better than no answer, you propably rigth.
And probably it is what it is here, à collection of recieps to help the op, who is certainly one of the most logic, he doesn't know. He can not be more Rigth than this. It is honest if I d'are, and humble, but it is not my purpise or point.
we can not know by ontology. And knowing that is already of à great help. It is my point.
Verity doesn t care of spiriruality, moral.
If now you want to say it is a placebo to live better because for that it Must be answered. What can I say ?
Maybe à good lie is better than an answered question, but it is not the purpose of philosophy and science that is à legacy of the first.
I have nothing against that collection of advices if it is to help someone. I tried some humoristic or less collection of définition seen the empiric life expérience point of view to open and push the réactions.
But I insist on the humility word some like the word certainly by cultural behavior. It is their advices, their response for oneself, it is not automaticly good for the op.
It was answered very soon from a personal point of view the answer is subjective. I believe it is what you call à feeling.
Some needs à group feeling to live better, it is basic anthropology, sociologie, psychology.
You are probably rigth from a social and close moralistic point of view seen from a part of the world. Humour could be and so on.
But is not Verity.
So à good Monthy Pyton answer is the good 45 of the Galaxy hitchhicking guide . 😀. Let me quite that guide, I try to learn how is working amps and Electronic and I am very lost in that field.🙂
someone said it in the thread sense of life is not the sense of one's life. We all agree without sign of else évidence or being in a sect.
Feeling like believing is subjective and individual. when it becomes à group thing, it is group delirium. And soon others enroll you in that train.
We can not exchange if behind the words people don't share the same définition of them and the concepts. What you say sounds good, cool. But it is false from the point of view of trying to answer to the question from à angle where it involves someone else as an exposed question is not a monolog with oneself.
Most of the people are indeed in a monolog here. Moral, humility, etc have nothing to see here. I should say many are in the two cents moralistic answer and à touch sometimes of false humility.
If now we change the angle and are in the reassurance, i.e. because one thinks an answer whatever it is wrong is better than no answer, you propably rigth.
And probably it is what it is here, à collection of recieps to help the op, who is certainly one of the most logic, he doesn't know. He can not be more Rigth than this. It is honest if I d'are, and humble, but it is not my purpise or point.
we can not know by ontology. And knowing that is already of à great help. It is my point.
Verity doesn t care of spiriruality, moral.
If now you want to say it is a placebo to live better because for that it Must be answered. What can I say ?
Maybe à good lie is better than an answered question, but it is not the purpose of philosophy and science that is à legacy of the first.
I have nothing against that collection of advices if it is to help someone. I tried some humoristic or less collection of définition seen the empiric life expérience point of view to open and push the réactions.
But I insist on the humility word some like the word certainly by cultural behavior. It is their advices, their response for oneself, it is not automaticly good for the op.
It was answered very soon from a personal point of view the answer is subjective. I believe it is what you call à feeling.
Some needs à group feeling to live better, it is basic anthropology, sociologie, psychology.
You are probably rigth from a social and close moralistic point of view seen from a part of the world. Humour could be and so on.
But is not Verity.
So à good Monthy Pyton answer is the good 45 of the Galaxy hitchhicking guide . 😀. Let me quite that guide, I try to learn how is working amps and Electronic and I am very lost in that field.🙂
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I have a problem with the maths, it is 42 as many knows here for the mammals (it comes from the word teat (mamelle)) which is already the continuity of a diiade relation from the bully, we are great Kangaroos. Not surprising than after the solitude of our brain is so hard to live, ahahah ! (but anyway are we not a reactiv fillm roll of external phenomenoms... social ones not the least ? 😉, mixed with some genetic attributes... )
. So the (not unirvesal) answer of the great ARCHitect (arch-hightech??) and his bearded priests is......: ! Les barbes aussi ont des pellicules ou des poux, mais c'est une autre histoire !
Cheers, see you elswhere, in the forum.
. So the (not unirvesal) answer of the great ARCHitect (arch-hightech??) and his bearded priests is......: ! Les barbes aussi ont des pellicules ou des poux, mais c'est une autre histoire !
Cheers, see you elswhere, in the forum.
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I have a problem with the maths, it is 42 as many knows here for the mammals (it comes from the word teat (mamelle))
And I totally fail to see why it comes as such a surprise to many that men are obsessed with 8008’s. What do you expect? From a damn mammal?? What do you reasonably expect????? It’s by design, @#$&* it!
Yes, it's by design that men are obsessed by a sign of fertility. If we weren't, we'd be extinct.And I totally fail to see why it comes as such a surprise to many that men are obsessed with 8008’s. What do you expect? From a damn mammal?? What do you reasonably expect????? It’s by design, @#$&* it!
It's not just humans...In essence:
Alignment.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/scienc...magnetic,variations in Earth's magnetic field.
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