That's a great recording for soundstage reproduction. Great to listen to for musical enjoyment, too.
I'd say not. Jeez, I grew up listening to that stuff, one of my Dad's favorites. It has nothing more than nostalgic value for me now. Part of an era.
Been my experience too, not just with music, but writing, brainstorming, etc. The drug lowers your taste threshold.
However, there does seem to be a tiny group who can maintain that leap over a longer period. They are often successful in their art.
Yeh it's interesting.
I dabble a bit with making electronic music.
Sometimes I'll get lost in the smoke haze and spend two hours on a 4-beat break, only to end up where I started.
Other times I'll "unlock" a tune I've been trying to get right for months.
Sometimes I'll edit an old project, crank everything up to the max, reverb and distort everything and have one hell of a party for an hour, listen to it the next day and go WTF?!?!?!?
Bottom line though, I always have fun doing it, and I've never really approached in the sense of "I'm going to make an album".
I've listened to some of my stuff on acid and a couple of tunes made the hair stand on te back of my neck while others bored me stiff.
Music, to me, of any genre is very "Time and place".
What?? No way! You had Target AND the Devo hats in 1980? I would have driven down fast from West Palm if I had known that. That's Miami Dade for ya....
It all depends.
I know a bass player who always smokes weed before rehearsals, gigs and recording sessions.
His band recently recorded a 10 song album in a day and a half. Basically each song played once as rehearsal and once as the actual take.
On the whole album he did 3 duff notes which weren't worth fixing because besides him and the band leader nobody will ever notice and it would have meant playing those songs a third time (album was recorded 'as live', no tracking).
He does session work in his spare time.
I have to say I've never seen this symptom mentioned in the literature or user reports.
For myself, the Beatles pre- and post-1965 is the most obvious example.
Creative musicians are a tiny group to begin with IMHO.
Some of the memoirs of jazz horn players 'turning on' make for interesting reading, back when it was about viper not vapor.
Originally Posted by Pano 
The drug lowers your taste threshold.
Sofaspud
I have to say I've never seen this symptom mentioned in the literature or user reports.
Me
I have no idea what he's talking about.
The drug lowers your taste threshold.
Sofaspud
I have to say I've never seen this symptom mentioned in the literature or user reports.
Me
I have no idea what he's talking about.
Weed makes me horny like crazy. Weed is a Dionysian drug - excellent for music and crazy sex.
I took it to mean "taste" in the general esthetic sense, in that it makes you think things are cool that you otherwise wouldn't (i.e. they exceed your lowered coolness or "taste" threshold), such as the silly music or other art some of us have excreted while high. This isn't always the case, though. For example, I've always thought that inane Brit series "The Young Ones" was hilarious, but the first time I watched it stoned, I had to shut it off because it was just too stupid! That one surprised me a little...Originally Posted by Pano
The drug lowers your taste threshold.
Sofaspud
I have to say I've never seen this symptom mentioned in the literature or user reports.
Me
I have no idea what he's talking about.
By the way, Sofa's Beatles reference is a good example of artists who seem to have benefited from the fresh perspective provided by drug use. Some would argue that it happened in spite of the drug use, but that doesn't seem as plausible to me.
-- Jim
I recall readin that it was Bob Dylan who introduced them to acid.
Apparently they had met before and Bob had brought some weed (which he may or may not have introduced them too as well😕) and the next time they caught up, he said he was bringing some "stuff".
They thought it was weed but it was acid.
This may have been when they somewhat changed their image and music style.....
😀
"Instant A$$hole, just add alcohol"
That's funny, I inherited Dad's ball cap with that logo on it.
OS has made some very accurate points, so have many others.
From my rec drug experiences, well they go way back with experiencing the gambit, except injection, pot is the safest and most enjoyable by a long shot. Especially if you eat it or use a vapourizer.
Based on my experiences, alcohol is the toxin that should be banded not pot. This just shows how screwed up the people in power are.
How much inspiration in musical creation is done being drunk or on opiates?
I guess I should challenge Scott W., saying that vapourized THC/CBD/CBN is not pollution in my mind. Burning, flash point temp, I would agree is leaning towards pollution, but i do it occasionally anyways 🙂 more as a social thing or to taste the stuff.
You can suck exhaust fumes on the freeway and I'll sit in the country retreat, smoke my pot any day of the week while listening to the downtown traffic jam report. Actually puts a smile on my face. I guess we will see who ends up in the box first.
Listening to music on alcohol is not the same experience as pot. The more we drank, louder the music got. Alcohol definitely screws with your ability to hear.
Think/research about pain relief or technically analgesic, what has replaced opiates? = nothing of any significance from my experiences, still the ole poppy pod juice, latex, is really it.
The pharma crowd still can not improve on NATURAL opiates nor cannabinoids.
Any analgesic Dr's out there, that care to comment.
I have Crohn's disease, after two resections, it is till active. They recently have put me on methotrexate. It makes me very nauseous. The cannabinoids are my saviour.
Graval is okay I guess, not my drug of choice, great if you want to feel out of it, like opiates for these symptoms, but the pot gives me appetite and wellness. My gastro Dr is well aware of what I am up too and has no objections.
Once I was on the gurney for surgery. The intern anesthesiologist asked if i did drugs, i told him I used \pot for my Crohn's, I was surprised when he smiled back and said he did too 🙂
Where I get upset is when people/gov tell me what I should do, how i should alleviate or manage my condition and how I should deal with my health issues. I usually tell them to go "f_ck" themselves.
Until you experience it, you are just an outsider with an opinion and that is about it, read your books 🙂. That is exactly what i say to the Dr. he has no recourse, he needs me to learn what works and what does not, I am the guinea pig, have been for awhile now.
Okay time to stick my weekly needle in my gut, for that I'll have a smoke to get my mind in gear. A tune might come to mind, Neil Young, needle and the damage done or NOT. My nurse/girlfriend is out of town this weekend. Fun wow!!
That's funny, I inherited Dad's ball cap with that logo on it.
OS has made some very accurate points, so have many others.
From my rec drug experiences, well they go way back with experiencing the gambit, except injection, pot is the safest and most enjoyable by a long shot. Especially if you eat it or use a vapourizer.
Based on my experiences, alcohol is the toxin that should be banded not pot. This just shows how screwed up the people in power are.
How much inspiration in musical creation is done being drunk or on opiates?
I guess I should challenge Scott W., saying that vapourized THC/CBD/CBN is not pollution in my mind. Burning, flash point temp, I would agree is leaning towards pollution, but i do it occasionally anyways 🙂 more as a social thing or to taste the stuff.
You can suck exhaust fumes on the freeway and I'll sit in the country retreat, smoke my pot any day of the week while listening to the downtown traffic jam report. Actually puts a smile on my face. I guess we will see who ends up in the box first.
Listening to music on alcohol is not the same experience as pot. The more we drank, louder the music got. Alcohol definitely screws with your ability to hear.
Think/research about pain relief or technically analgesic, what has replaced opiates? = nothing of any significance from my experiences, still the ole poppy pod juice, latex, is really it.
The pharma crowd still can not improve on NATURAL opiates nor cannabinoids.
Any analgesic Dr's out there, that care to comment.
I have Crohn's disease, after two resections, it is till active. They recently have put me on methotrexate. It makes me very nauseous. The cannabinoids are my saviour.
Graval is okay I guess, not my drug of choice, great if you want to feel out of it, like opiates for these symptoms, but the pot gives me appetite and wellness. My gastro Dr is well aware of what I am up too and has no objections.
Once I was on the gurney for surgery. The intern anesthesiologist asked if i did drugs, i told him I used \pot for my Crohn's, I was surprised when he smiled back and said he did too 🙂
Where I get upset is when people/gov tell me what I should do, how i should alleviate or manage my condition and how I should deal with my health issues. I usually tell them to go "f_ck" themselves.
Until you experience it, you are just an outsider with an opinion and that is about it, read your books 🙂. That is exactly what i say to the Dr. he has no recourse, he needs me to learn what works and what does not, I am the guinea pig, have been for awhile now.
Okay time to stick my weekly needle in my gut, for that I'll have a smoke to get my mind in gear. A tune might come to mind, Neil Young, needle and the damage done or NOT. My nurse/girlfriend is out of town this weekend. Fun wow!!
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Well, it wasn't Bob that introduced them to acid according to any source I know of. It was pot.
And I don't know what to think of this:
"How much inspiration in musical creation is done being drunk or on opiates? Basically nothing"
...except that it doesn't appear to have been given much forethought.
And I don't know what to think of this:
"How much inspiration in musical creation is done being drunk or on opiates? Basically nothing"
...except that it doesn't appear to have been given much forethought.
Could well be the case and you're most likely right.
I've not spent any time looking for info on it, just something I read....somewhere....sometime.
Or saw on some TV program.....
Or whatever
😛
Quite right, I didn't think it would be taken any other way. What was I smoking? 😀
Certainly the Beatles benefited from something, acid seems plausible. But age, maturity, vast amounts of practice, the unblinking public eye - probably all helped, too.
While I do understand the objections to alcohol, I much prefer its effects on MY brain than the effects of pot. Pot can be a lot of fun, but not all of us react to it in the same way. Mostly, it doesn't agree with me.
In my best Pee-Wee Herman voice: I'm NOT sorry!
Thanks a lot, man. I can only hope you enjoy my suggestions half as much as I'm digging this.
-- Jim
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