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Maybe, just maybe.... they (the aliens) are planning to clean up the mess from the previous year's worth of snot.
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Gents,
Knowledge is rational and arguments do work. Beliefs are irrational and there is no way one could be converted if one just believes.
Please, loosen up. If Alf is any kind of example, cats are the only endangered species...
Knowledge is rational and arguments do work. Beliefs are irrational and there is no way one could be converted if one just believes.
Please, loosen up. If Alf is any kind of example, cats are the only endangered species...
Why is it "US Naval pilots"? What about other navies, and other pilots?
IMHO the simpler questions should be answered first before moving on to possible propulsion schemes, galaxy of origin, and the like.
IMHO the simpler questions should be answered first before moving on to possible propulsion schemes, galaxy of origin, and the like.
UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record by Leslie Kean has worldwide cases.
Jacques Vallee started out doing French cases, mentoring under Aime Michel.
It helps the search if you know the word for UFO in various languages
Jacques Vallee started out doing French cases, mentoring under Aime Michel.
It helps the search if you know the word for UFO in various languages
I was referring specifically to the topic header and the "every day for at least a couple of years" time frame.
Therefore, the first may possibly be useful. I'll have a look.
The second is again wholly irrelevant.
"UFO" isn't a word, and most significant scientific papers can be found in English. I don't really want to find foreign versions of National Enquirer.
Therefore, the first may possibly be useful. I'll have a look.
The second is again wholly irrelevant.
"UFO" isn't a word, and most significant scientific papers can be found in English. I don't really want to find foreign versions of National Enquirer.
Messrs Brinkman and exeric, although me to commend you on the elegance and respect evidenced in the evolution of the conversation between you two in the last several pages of this thread. Rather a joy to encounter such a civil exchange these days, even if in service of such a fraught topic that could all too easily devolve.
Aliens need to make their mind up about spotted.
Either keep out of our way or use cloaking.
Or come out and introduce yourselves.
Before I had read up on the subject I recalled the refrain “I’ll believe in UFOs when they land on the White House lawn.” So I was a bit surprised when I discovered that there had been a flap in ‘52 where such a thing came close to happening. There’s apparently a bit of debris from the encounter. Anyway, watch The Phenomenon for a decent recap of the event.
Nigel, that is your (and our own human) nature of things.
Indeed, that is how we are bred to feel, our own logic.
And that's all well and fine of course.
But consider this....
Other beings, from other worlds, may not have the same fundamental feelings.
Their world(s) must be highly different, as well as their justifications and actions.
Never assume that our world views are universal and keep an open mind.
Speaking of the UFO flap over Washington D.C. in July of 1952, there was a NASA scientist named Paul Hill who witnessed it. Because he was already interested and educated in flight dynamics he was a highly skilled observer and watched them over two consecutive weekends. Because his brain was already trained in that direction he took note of the specifics of flight that he observed while watching them. He also noted how they tilted when changing direction, speeding up or slowing down. He wrote his observations down in this book:
https://www.amazon.com/Unconvention...entional+flying+objects&qid=1622520027&sr=8-1
It's all very interesting and he quantitatively analysed many of the things he observed. It's really fascinating and is worth reading. He provided an informal clearing housing of information for those individuals he worked with in NASA. Those people would come to him to give and receive information. It wasn't any kind of formal thing. It wasn't PC back then to talk about it with his managers at NASA so everyone who was interested knew he was the one to talk about it with. Like now, you had to assume that you could NOT talk about your interest or sightings to anyone there except for a few people like Paul Hill. I imagine he served as a kind of mental relief valve for those people. It's a well written book and anyone reading it will quickly be disabused of the idea that the guy's a wacko.
https://www.amazon.com/Unconvention...entional+flying+objects&qid=1622520027&sr=8-1
It's all very interesting and he quantitatively analysed many of the things he observed. It's really fascinating and is worth reading. He provided an informal clearing housing of information for those individuals he worked with in NASA. Those people would come to him to give and receive information. It wasn't any kind of formal thing. It wasn't PC back then to talk about it with his managers at NASA so everyone who was interested knew he was the one to talk about it with. Like now, you had to assume that you could NOT talk about your interest or sightings to anyone there except for a few people like Paul Hill. I imagine he served as a kind of mental relief valve for those people. It's a well written book and anyone reading it will quickly be disabused of the idea that the guy's a wacko.
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Oh yea, your description clears the way of any skepticism getting in the way for sure.
Uh huh, yea, the go to quietly guy, very informal. SHH, close the door behind you.
sure.😉
Uh huh, yea, the go to quietly guy, very informal. SHH, close the door behind you.
sure.😉
Don't you get tired of being sarcastic? It seems like you'd at least wonder about what's in the book he wrote before discounting it. Maybe not enough to buy it but...curious. I guess the whole idea is too threatening to even dip a toe in the water, huh. I wonder what's that about?
I don't find the author's behavior at all unusual. Pilots who have UFO sightings have withheld talking about them for years because of the stigma and the effect on their careers. For gosh sake, you are an EXAMPLE of it! If you were that guys coworker I wouldn't doubt for a minute if you heard about it he'd be scared of you making fun of him and trying to get him fired. You couldn't contain yourself.
I don't find the author's behavior at all unusual. Pilots who have UFO sightings have withheld talking about them for years because of the stigma and the effect on their careers. For gosh sake, you are an EXAMPLE of it! If you were that guys coworker I wouldn't doubt for a minute if you heard about it he'd be scared of you making fun of him and trying to get him fired. You couldn't contain yourself.
Do you realize how classic your description is? It could not be more so. The perfect set up. You can't expect to be taken seriously insulting peoples' intelligence. Freud is laughing in his grave right now.
I'm not too worried about being taken seriously, at least by you. That appears to have been a lost cause a while ago. You don't know what you don't know so there is no chance of you being told that there's a gap in your knowledge.
Pete can say whatever he wants.
After all, this is the internet...... another "blog", millions of them around.
I don't let myself get upset over internet blabbering.
After all, this is the internet...... another "blog", millions of them around.
I don't let myself get upset over internet blabbering.
Here's a link to a story of "the Big Flap" in Washington, DC.
When UFOs Buzzed the White House and the Air Force Blamed the Weather - HISTORY
I couldn't find anything suggesting Paul Hill was a witness to it. He did experience a related sighting during the same month.
"Buzzed the White House" is a bit of journalistic license.
When UFOs Buzzed the White House and the Air Force Blamed the Weather - HISTORY
I couldn't find anything suggesting Paul Hill was a witness to it. He did experience a related sighting during the same month.
"Buzzed the White House" is a bit of journalistic license.
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