I have an ambiance tweeter on the back of the speaker. Wisaton G20SC 8ohm. First order cut around 6kHz, pretty big attenuation (33ohm+0.82uF in front of the G20SC). Adds air, spaciousness and detail. If this is exaggerated, excessive sharpness in the sound appears. When in the phase with the front tweeter, it sounds softer, in the counter phase it sounds sharper. I chose the G20SC because it has a ferrofluid and a fairly flat impedance curve with damped resonance, so it can be cut low with a first order crossover in this case.
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It is connected with 4mm banana plugs, I can always turn it off or reverse the phase. The distance from the back wall is also important.
I also put the backfire tweeter on the Microlab FC330 PC 2+1 speakers. They are much better now. 🤣
I also put the backfire tweeter on the Microlab FC330 PC 2+1 speakers. They are much better now. 🤣
Based on this recording, it seems that there are even too many high frequencies. You should definitely try them with some other amplifier and sound source.
that is with the mic a meter away from the speaker and centered at the tweeter.
alas from the seating position it looks like this
and that is in a really really really tough room.
thats with a REL sub btw.
no I can’t get rid of that 50hz peak no matter what
but it really doesn’t distract
That's great, it's hard to be better. Is it measured with a tweeter in phase?
no stock wiring
if you see my room you will think I’m god on how I got it that good
lol
i mean it’s bad
uploaded this as a sample.
its pretty loud and its recorded on my iPhone.
but you can get a pretty good idea.
hope there isn’t any copywrite ****
its pretty loud and its recorded on my iPhone.
but you can get a pretty good idea.
hope there isn’t any copywrite ****
Pull the speakers forward.
dude. Trust me.
i spent months positioning my speakers.
around 2.5 feet is the sweet spot.
i have it precision measured.
0.606 meters from the back of the speaker.
if you see me work you will tell me stop.
lol
my left speaker has no wall behind it.
so I can’t do the sumiko method of speaker distance.
but I derived my own method of distance from the back wall
and even more speaker distance from each other which is super super critical.
i even went to extremes to see how things would sound
my latest escapade was three months of slowly tweaking the speaker distance from each other.
i got to the point where now I can really hear what my speakers sound like.
my room is approximately 12’ x 17’. Speakers can only go on the long side
Well it’s similar to my room which is a bit longer (3.65x5.50m) speakers on the longer side. I also have a peaks at 30&60Hz. 🤣my room is approximately 12’ x 17’. Speakers can only go on the long side
You may have already said, but I have to ask again what is the front end in the sistem? What sound source are you using, some DAC?
i originally had a rega Elex R.
wanted more clarity and timing
I thought NAIM would do it.
so I got the NAIM X3.
hated it. No joke. And sorry to all NAIM users.
within minutes I didn’t like it at all.
the rega blew it away to me.
so then I got the benchmark AHB2. Used the rega pre with it. Was much better
then I got the benchmark LA4 preamp and was blown away.
the timing is what did it for me the most. I know some recordings really well as a musician. The speed was spot on across all freq.
My DAC is the Marantz HD DAC1.
impressed with benchmark I got their DAC3. didn’t like it as much.
i also got a Denafrips Venus. Didn’t like it. Timbre didn’t sound good to me.
i got a dumb Topping SE90. Hated it. Really really bad timbre.
got an RME ADI DAc. Didn’t like it. Grainy.
got a bunch of other DACs.
for whatever reason nothing is as real and as good as the Marantz so i gave up on DACs.
i actually got another Marantz DAc as a backup since I like it so much.
no it’s not rolled off at all. It’s kinda bright to tell you the truth.
biggest let down was the Denafrips. That was a $3500 DAC.
meh. First minute I heard it I was like no.
good separation of instruments. But no
Well it’s similar to my room which is a bit longer (3.65x5.50m) speakers on the longer side. I also have a peak at 50Hz. 🤣
lol.
you have NO idea what I have tried to lower that peak.
lol
it won’t go down.
i only managed to get it down a couple DB.
wont budge. Lol
could you hear the video or was it copyright restricted?
what gear do you have?
speakers , amp etc
Btw. That recording is good.
and it’s much much easier to record one flamenco guitar than a whole orchestra
my benchmark is always how an orchestra sounds.
i don’t play silly audiophile music.
that sounds good on anything and is impressive
getting a system to make oboes sound like oboes , voices to sound organic and real, violins to have that howling quality and not sound screachy, brass to sound real etc.
those are the real tests.
oh and the occasional Dream Theater to test how well a speaker can handle some serious drums.
and it’s much much easier to record one flamenco guitar than a whole orchestra
my benchmark is always how an orchestra sounds.
i don’t play silly audiophile music.
that sounds good on anything and is impressive
getting a system to make oboes sound like oboes , voices to sound organic and real, violins to have that howling quality and not sound screachy, brass to sound real etc.
those are the real tests.
oh and the occasional Dream Theater to test how well a speaker can handle some serious drums.
I was wrong, one speaker has a peak around 60Hz, the other around 30Hz, because they are asymmetrically placed. One is closer to the middle and the other closer to the corner.
speaker placement is everything.
it’s so so hard to get right.
people need to spend months and months of experimentation IMHO do get it as right as the room will allow
Cellos are really good for getting speaker distance from each other right.
but you also need to play other stuff to make sure.
speaker distance from each other will increase the mid bass or lower it.
getting a voice the right size in the middle is a BS way to do it IMHO.
use headphones. NOT for timbre. But look for volume cues between instruments.
that how I have dialed in the distance of my speakers to each other.
i think it is one of the most overlooked speaker positioning aspects.
but you also need to play other stuff to make sure.
speaker distance from each other will increase the mid bass or lower it.
getting a voice the right size in the middle is a BS way to do it IMHO.
use headphones. NOT for timbre. But look for volume cues between instruments.
that how I have dialed in the distance of my speakers to each other.
i think it is one of the most overlooked speaker positioning aspects.
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