That assumes they are communicating with someone not aboard their own vehicle, doesn't it?
I meant communicating between vehicles or between a vehicle and its base station. I would guess the aliens just talk to each other when they are on the vehicle together. Unless they are fighting with each other, of course.
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641 posts about ET and UFO's...
Taking a step back, I sense that since the thread (along with the other one) has gone this far, the human element of curiosity and debate is clearly shown.
Even the non-believers and skeptics keep a tight grip on this subject, and if so, why?
Because in their minds, although they claim that they don't believe, they must feel a sort of suspicion towards the unknown.
Taking a step back, I sense that since the thread (along with the other one) has gone this far, the human element of curiosity and debate is clearly shown.
Even the non-believers and skeptics keep a tight grip on this subject, and if so, why?
Because in their minds, although they claim that they don't believe, they must feel a sort of suspicion towards the unknown.
Not interested in looking up assertions at this time.well, there are examples of human - ape interaction using human sign language which is accepted as a fair alternative to speech when used between humans. I believe there’s a case of an ape teaching another ape this sign language. Apes share a lot of DNA with humans and I’m willing to accept the assertion that such apes are self aware. Are you?
Do you mean accept an assertion that non-human can...?As to how far can that be extended to other animals I don’t know, but once you accept a non-human can be self aware the door is open.
Or maybe they just find it entertaining to do back-and-forth online regardless of the subject.Because in their minds, although they claim that they don't believe, they must feel a sort of suspicion towards the unknown.
And no "believer and non-skeptic" will jump in and accuse you of anthropomorphism.I meant communicating between vehicles or between a vehicle and its base station. I would guess the aliens just talk to each other when they are on the vehicle together. Unless they are fighting with each other, of course.
See how this works?😉
It's just too many layers of assumptions for it to ever even get to this point IMO.
For myself, it's simply philosophy in the strict Greek etymology, and the contemporary sense as well. Pardon me if that disappoints.Even the non-believers and skeptics keep a tight grip on this subject, and if so, why?
Because in their minds, although they claim that they don't believe, they must feel a sort of suspicion towards the unknown.
OK ... any guess as what this could be? US Aurora project 🙂
Bizarre Midair UFO Sighting Freaks Out Plane Passengers | New York Post - YouTube
Bizarre Midair UFO Sighting Freaks Out Plane Passengers | New York Post - YouTube
And no "believer and non-skeptic" will jump in and accuse you of anthropomorphism.
See how this works?😉
It's just too many layers of assumptions for it to ever even get to this point IMO.
I am joking of course. A little levity can’t hurt.
I know that I don’t know. That’s better than knowing without actually knowing. At a base monkey brain level, I feel like there are aliens out there. I know there is no irrefutable proof to back this feeling, so when asked if there are aliens I say maybe. Saying no is just as dumb as saying yes when you don’t know. Saying no and citing what our science or physics deems possible today is extra dumb.
Mystery flying objects, lights in the sky, Government coverage, Men in Black (women too), etc. , boils down to not much more than this:
ASTERNAUTS - Award-winning Sci Fi Comedy Short Film [EN] - YouTube
ASTERNAUTS - Award-winning Sci Fi Comedy Short Film [EN] - YouTube
That object is unidentified and it's flying.
And like that orb I saw back in 1968, I can't identify what it is, neither can anyone.
We'll have to wait and see.
It's our current level of evidentiary technology. Remember, not long ago, we didn't have any way to observe radio signals even if it came from exoplanet. There is a chance that by the time we were able to, those signals have passed us and possibly the last broadcast before some being decided to upgrade to something else that we don't have yet.
These types of arguments strain the limits of credibility to the point of credulity, like the ‘dark forest hypothesis’ or ‘they came to teach us’ etc.
YouTube is full of this stuff.
OK ... any guess as what this could be? US Aurora project 🙂
Bizarre Midair UFO Sighting Freaks Out Plane Passengers | New York Post - YouTube
This is likely the exhaust plume of another aircfraft which has emerged from the clouds. The observer aircraft is flying around the back of it since the ‘UFO’ is flying away at right angles. It looks solid because the plume is dense and being seen wedge on.
Ditto the flashing triangular UFO - that looks like hazard light on an aircraft. Why would vastly superior aliens flash their stuff at humans like this?
When my son’s drone goes up at night, you wouldn’t know what it was - no visual cues on its size, it’s for the most part silent etc.
These types of arguments strain the limits of credibility to the point of credulity, like the ‘dark forest hypothesis’ or ‘they came to teach us’ etc.
YouTube is full of this stuff.
Evenharmonics is saying that not being able to detect alien transmissions if they exist could be because of timing, and because of the signals not being of a type that we can detect. These are both possibilities. So much so that doing what SETI is doing seems pointless. If there are alien civilizations, are they going to develop radio? Maybe. Even if they develop radio and then become space faring, radio would become pretty useless as a way of communicating between vehicles that travel faster than light. If an alien civilization is space faring and is visiting us, they are using FTL technology. This technology could very well open up new ways of communicating that we are unaware of and unable to detect. The Fermi Paradox is based on a lack of observational evidence of aliens existing. If I get a group of 20 people to search my closet for aliens for 24 hours a day, every day for 60 years, and they don’t find any, should I also conclude that aliens don’t exist? Saying that alien civilizations don’t exist because SETI hasn’t found any by listening for the very 20th century technology of radio is what strains credibility to the point of credulity. I believe that is his point.
. It has no proof, no validation, it can only attract ‘believers’. It can’t be used to set rational policy. We need something more tangible.
You mean like Bitcoin?
I don't agree with the premise, 412know1seeks. There's simply nothing to support an illogical reason. Missing people aren't an uncommon occurrence. There are entire tv series devoted to it. They're still looking for D.B. Cooper; there's no reason to believe he's living in another dimension.
New species are discovered quite regularly. Maybe bigfoot will be one of them at some future time. Until then, footprints and hokey videos aren't sufficient to remove serious doubt.
You must have not reviewed any of the cases. These are not just missing person cases. Many are found, rarely alive with certain similar details, time and cause of death. Many found in unreachable locations(unless they were dropped by a flying craft or popped through s portal)that the victims could not have brought themselves to. Sometimes barefoot or with clean socks, no shoes. They disappear instantly. A few people hiking, one ducks in a bush to tske a leak....gone. Sometimes they can hear the person calling. And bad weather usually interrupts the search...just weird, illogical details. The reason I threw Bigfoot out there is David Paulides who investigates these cases got an interest in BF and wrote a book on the subject and has found DNA/hair that does not match any known samples. What's also really weird is the US park service response to his info requests. This guy was a 20 year law enforcement officer, not a crackpot. He never speculates, just presents the facts. unsettling as they are. Skinwalker ranch is another busy location of the unexplained.. check them out. Common thread is Government intertest, involvement and hush hush.
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It seems they are here which is crazy weird, but what's equally weird is how the public is dealing with it... It is hardly being discussed.
'they are', here,
and have been ever since this planet was begun.
those that refuse the truth ,
are those that are frighted,
and usually attempt the same old script,
so they wont be so scared.
which involves belittlement.
and low quality humor.
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when we realize what is happening, and why.
there is nothing to be afraid of.
For those who are not scared,
Alex Collier on Andromeda's insights on Earths 5D ascension with Michael Jaco 4 20 21 - YouTube
New species are discovered quite regularly. Maybe bigfoot will be one of them at some future time. Until then, footprints and hokey videos aren't sufficient to remove serious doubt.
I agree, there should be bones, fossils, something. Maybe they are really good about recovering their dead so they get a proper burial where ever it is they hide out. I am kidding, but I do know a few people that had a similar experience where they were not welcome in wilderness locations and boulders, not rocks, were thrown at them. Something large had to do it, giants?
Just 2 days ago, me and another resident here saw a UFO. No aliens... Just a bright orb with no flashing lights moving fairly fast across the sky. It was the biggest, brightest thing in the sky and after we verbally took notice, about 10 seconds later, it reduced size to a small blue pin prick and then vanished. No sound the whole time.
As soon as I can find them, I will post a couple of unusual photo's my girlfriend took here in Pacifica while riding one of our horses. One shows a bright green orb in the woods. Everyone she shows says it was a dust mote in the camera. But she saw it. The other shows 2 huge smoke rings in the sky, side by side,above the ocean. When I say huge, a couple miles wide. Not normal.
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@tizman so they’re using some method of FTL communication (photon entanglement?) and they come from another stellar system at FTL, and still see fit to hover over our cities and flash their lights?
Anyway, nothing more to see here.
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Anyway, nothing more to see here.
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