Okay, open up wide; here comes the big spoon: Edmund Halley was a witness to multiple UFO sightings, the first one in 1676. What a flake.
Yet history could never figure out what was behind those green fireballs, nor ghost rockets or foo fighters for that matter. Funny that.
"No, they do not wish us to be aware of them."
If true, that technology obviously needs a little more work.
If true, that technology obviously needs a little more work.
It is agreed by just about all that the chapter of dinosaur was closed 65 million years ago. For the productivity sake, those who are exchanging words, it helps to be on the same page when it comes to the meaning of words being used.
What would you consider evidence in that context?
I don't see how you can assert such a view with any confidence, much less with such near certainty. How is it possible to presume such a thing about some unknown, far more advanced civilization. Unless/until THEY wished for us to recognize them?
So, it turned out not to be a Dyson's Sphere. Which means what, exactly? That has always human speculation, that some super super advanced alien civilization would utilize Dyson Spheres, as silly as that notion has always seemed to me. What, exactly, would they need so much highly localized power for? That never made any logical sense.
Yes, IF they behaved like humans. However, now that you mention it, how do you or anyone else know that they haven't already colonized or seeded planets habitable to life, maybe including this one?
These assumptions are completely arbitrary. Obviously chosen to justify the contrived conclusion that we are alone in our galaxy. Perhaps, we are. But that 'analysis' doesn't rationally determine that.
I have no issue with that "belief", as long as there is no confusing it for some factual conclusion. It's only speculation, just as it is speculation for those who "believe" in aliens. It does have the benefit, however, of being the status quo situation of our current existence on this rock, and properly remains that until/unless proven otherwise.
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I think it very logical to assume more advanced civilizations will find need for more energy use. Dyson pointed out the obvious method but not the only one no doubt.
As to behaviour, well it seems to me that our behaviour is a consequence of our evolution and that such evolution is the most likely process for the generation of life elsewhere so similar behaviours are not surprising if they occur. But our behaviour will change as we further evolve and what we call human behaviour in several millennia from now may be different.
As to behaviour, well it seems to me that our behaviour is a consequence of our evolution and that such evolution is the most likely process for the generation of life elsewhere so similar behaviours are not surprising if they occur. But our behaviour will change as we further evolve and what we call human behaviour in several millennia from now may be different.
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Then the question is, how much of our current behavior different from several millennia ago?
Zero Point - The Story of Mark McCandlish and the the Fluxliner - YouTube , highly recommend . UFO accounts are journalists' stuff of dreams - Opinion - Columbia Daily Tribune - Columbia, MO, How about chief engineer for Lockheed Skunkworks Ben Rich saying we already have tec to go to the stars . this was in the 80s .
While you're at it you might want to look into Gen. Albert Stubblebine . Now deceased but was in charge of all army intel and several exotic programs . Think of the movie " Men who stare at goats" an excerpt from his program which he himself verified the existence of .
Brought up in the parallel thread: https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/the-lounge/372428-naval-pilots-ufo-everyday-couple-14.html#post6661174
I’m more tempted to throw my hat in with the skeptics as talk it cheap but it is interesting
I’m more tempted to throw my hat in with the skeptics as talk it cheap but it is interesting
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Vimana - Ancient Flying Machine
Ancient texts from India describe the Vimana flying ships in detail with the same propulsion system as the "Fluxliner" in the video posted above . I have spoken with an engineer from India where this ancient tec is accepted as a matter of fact.
Ancient texts from India describe the Vimana flying ships in detail with the same propulsion system as the "Fluxliner" in the video posted above . I have spoken with an engineer from India where this ancient tec is accepted as a matter of fact.
Nevermind, I understand your “70 years” comment with respect to the thread title and agree.
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not much, if you believe what little we know about ourselves in the past. biggest change is more gathering and less hunting but the rest of it seems like we’re just as pleasant as we’ve always been 🙄
I live near Silicon Valley. People here are already stocking their fridges with bottles of Soylent to hasten the transition to post humanism ASAP
What's surprising about that? This guy spent a good part of his life peering through a telescope at the sky. It stands to reason he would have come across things he could not explain. What were his conclusions about them?
You make a good point. We’ve had 70 years of UFO telemetry via radar so there’s little surprise Halley might have caught something similar.
Here's a little anecdotal compilation I came across that may entertain the more devout.Ufo sightings aliens in the 700
Wow, incredible. Don’t know what to make of any of that without skeptics to light the way. In the meanwhile, what are we to make of a crank like Halley?
Bottom line is people see things, people hear things, and then inevitably say things. My brother in-law entertained us one evening way back when in the days of good old Mexican pot, circa 1969. They were on a secluded country road star gazing with his telescope. While driving back into town they witnessed a UFO swoop down in front of them as if leading the way for about 30 sec and then take a sharp angle straight up at incredible speed and disappear. We looked at him in amazement, jaws dropped...WOW! A few years later I asked about it and he said it was a lie. He just wanted to entertain us with a good story.
Here's a good story but true...in 1980 I went to the air show in London Ontario with my wife and kids. This was before any of those major catastrophies put the brakes on the jets getting anywhere near the audience. They were swooping in past the crowd less than 100yds away at 1500mph. Incredible to say the least. I will never forget the delta wing Tomcat that came swooping in, turned on it's *** pointing straight up past 90deg digging in, bouncing to a dead stop in mid air like a cartoon and then shoot up like a rocket right out of sight, the ground shaking like an earthquake. Everybody screaming and hooting like you wouldn't believe. That was awesome. 🙂
The weight of probability is in favour of there being very, very few advanced civilisations ahead of ours - which is not saying there arent any, but it is unlikely or minuscule. That’s all the academics are saying. The reason has less to do with billions of potentially life supporting planets and more to do with how complex life arises - so more to do with astrobiology and less to do with the astrophysics side of things.
The ‘assumptions’ are not arbitrary- we have a fossil record that goes back 3.8 billion years are are able to mapp out the major biological transitions that gave rise to intelligent life. If you e ever read up on photosynthesis you’ll know it is nothing short of miraculous. And it’s just one one thousands of processes that have evolved over billions of years.
Clearly you have not read the article or looked at the reference section.
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