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don’t fret, the Devil is planning a huge BBQ with enough seats at the picnic table for all of us
Aren't you forgetting something??I'd sooner be invaded by aliens.
They're US!

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That's not the only way though. If you have the technology to warp space-time, you can travel at great distant without experiencing time-dilation. So basically you can still go back to your family once you finish your journey.
That is good news ! 🙂
I hope the arguments are not exhausted, I found something interesting to discuss ......🙂
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THE EXTRATERRING ORIGIN OF HUMANITY
In 1967 it took place what we consider the most important and the most reliable meeting of a terrestrial with beings coming from another planet. It involves eight inhabitants of the planet “Iarga” and Adrian Beers (alias Stefan Denaerde) a Dutch industrialist who was sailing in the North Sea on board his ship of sixteen meters. He was enjoying a vacation with his wife and three children. The meeting took place in consequence of a boat collision with a “flying saucer” nestled on the water. Such “flying saucer” was backstage following Denaerde’s boat. Such a collision was designed and caused by these eight representatives of the planet Iarga, a world that is part of a galactic confederation that, for millennia, has got support bases stationed in our solar system. They have got bases on Earth, especially in the inaccessible depths of the oceans.
The UFO sighting and the alleged encounters with alien beings which have been registered since1947 are hundreds of thousands. Most of these are the result of naivety, mythomania and often bad faith, so that they have nothing to do with the extraterrestrial presence. With this in mind, skeptics scholars and crafty journalists have found fertile ground to mock and remove the extraterrestrial matter. There are documentaries, books and sites that deal with these topics and that, with scientific arrogance, exhibit bogus cases with the aim of demonstrating that all ufology is based on nothing.
The eminent theologian Msgr. Corrado Balducci, who is certainly not a party man, was interested in UFO’s. He deeply investigated such phenomena and released a comprehensive interview which we can summarize as follows: “Even the most severe critics cannot exhaust all the evidence that there are about UFO sightings and about the cases of the so-called contactees”.
One of the contactees who has marked the history of ufology and who has survived unscathed the attacks of that scientific and journalistic world that wants to deny it, is Stefan Denaerde. Starting from his testimony, we have identified a logical thread that runs through the entire history of our planet and the various civilizations that populate it.
The human species is not the result of chance and on Earth it did not develop on the basis of the evolutionary theories introduced by Darwin, but is the result of an extraterrestrial “project”. These “creators” of ours have numerous space bases within the enormous cavities of the lunar subsoil and of the other planets and satellites of the solar system.
The strength of the book “The Extraterrestrial Civilizations” is that it starts from precise information which Stefan Denaerde received from the Iargans. So he was able to gather, in a coherent way, lots of documents and testimonies concerning the modern UFO story, clipeology and religions.
This book contains comprehensive answers to the various questions that mankind of our time asks about the extraterrestrial hypothesis:
How is it possible that extraterrestrial beings could visit Earth which is the only habitable planet of our solar system? The closest stars are many light years far away!
Even though extraterrestrials are visiting our planet, why don’t they get officially contact with us?
“Clipeology” claims that UFOs are not only a phenomenon of the present time, but of the whole history of mankind. So, why UFOs were only officially recognized in 1947?
Is it true that there are extraterrestrial species very similar to us and which we derive from?
Is it true that the aliens for most of the missions on our planet make use of humanoid (biological robots) programmed for performing special interventions, then capable of driving flying saucers, but they are not real human beings?
Is it true that the Lord and the angels of the Bible, traveling on bright clouds, were extraterrestrial beings?
Is it true that the “Vimanas” were nothing but “flying saucers“? Is it true then that the Oriental religions are of extraterrestrial origin?
What Is the goal of such extraterrestrial project and what will be the fate of the mankind living on the planet Earth?
Will there be a time when extraterrestrials will officially come out into the open?
Next page ......
Initial page - THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILIZATIONS
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THE EXTRATERRING ORIGIN OF HUMANITY
In 1967 it took place what we consider the most important and the most reliable meeting of a terrestrial with beings coming from another planet. It involves eight inhabitants of the planet “Iarga” and Adrian Beers (alias Stefan Denaerde) a Dutch industrialist who was sailing in the North Sea on board his ship of sixteen meters. He was enjoying a vacation with his wife and three children. The meeting took place in consequence of a boat collision with a “flying saucer” nestled on the water. Such “flying saucer” was backstage following Denaerde’s boat. Such a collision was designed and caused by these eight representatives of the planet Iarga, a world that is part of a galactic confederation that, for millennia, has got support bases stationed in our solar system. They have got bases on Earth, especially in the inaccessible depths of the oceans.
The UFO sighting and the alleged encounters with alien beings which have been registered since1947 are hundreds of thousands. Most of these are the result of naivety, mythomania and often bad faith, so that they have nothing to do with the extraterrestrial presence. With this in mind, skeptics scholars and crafty journalists have found fertile ground to mock and remove the extraterrestrial matter. There are documentaries, books and sites that deal with these topics and that, with scientific arrogance, exhibit bogus cases with the aim of demonstrating that all ufology is based on nothing.
The eminent theologian Msgr. Corrado Balducci, who is certainly not a party man, was interested in UFO’s. He deeply investigated such phenomena and released a comprehensive interview which we can summarize as follows: “Even the most severe critics cannot exhaust all the evidence that there are about UFO sightings and about the cases of the so-called contactees”.
One of the contactees who has marked the history of ufology and who has survived unscathed the attacks of that scientific and journalistic world that wants to deny it, is Stefan Denaerde. Starting from his testimony, we have identified a logical thread that runs through the entire history of our planet and the various civilizations that populate it.
The human species is not the result of chance and on Earth it did not develop on the basis of the evolutionary theories introduced by Darwin, but is the result of an extraterrestrial “project”. These “creators” of ours have numerous space bases within the enormous cavities of the lunar subsoil and of the other planets and satellites of the solar system.
The strength of the book “The Extraterrestrial Civilizations” is that it starts from precise information which Stefan Denaerde received from the Iargans. So he was able to gather, in a coherent way, lots of documents and testimonies concerning the modern UFO story, clipeology and religions.
This book contains comprehensive answers to the various questions that mankind of our time asks about the extraterrestrial hypothesis:
How is it possible that extraterrestrial beings could visit Earth which is the only habitable planet of our solar system? The closest stars are many light years far away!
Even though extraterrestrials are visiting our planet, why don’t they get officially contact with us?
“Clipeology” claims that UFOs are not only a phenomenon of the present time, but of the whole history of mankind. So, why UFOs were only officially recognized in 1947?
Is it true that there are extraterrestrial species very similar to us and which we derive from?
Is it true that the aliens for most of the missions on our planet make use of humanoid (biological robots) programmed for performing special interventions, then capable of driving flying saucers, but they are not real human beings?
Is it true that the Lord and the angels of the Bible, traveling on bright clouds, were extraterrestrial beings?
Is it true that the “Vimanas” were nothing but “flying saucers“? Is it true then that the Oriental religions are of extraterrestrial origin?
What Is the goal of such extraterrestrial project and what will be the fate of the mankind living on the planet Earth?
Will there be a time when extraterrestrials will officially come out into the open?
Next page ......
Initial page - THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILIZATIONS
First of all, we don't need no stinkin "logical" thread.😡I hope the arguments are not exhausted, I found something interesting to discuss ......🙂
we have identified a logical thread
We have right here our very own 'illogical' thread, without which, arguments would surely cease!😡
Is that what you want??....this?

What is the problem ? Whoever wants to read, let him read, I am finding it very interesting ..... for example this part .... not even that they were referring to you !
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This cold, and hard truth is one of the main reasons that explain why extraterrestrials don’t’ want to make official contacts with terrestrial societies: we are too much evolved and dangerous from the scientific and military point of view, but ethically socially absolutely primitive.
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This cold, and hard truth is one of the main reasons that explain why extraterrestrials don’t’ want to make official contacts with terrestrial societies: we are too much evolved and dangerous from the scientific and military point of view, but ethically socially absolutely primitive.
Maybe its the money?
To the Stars (company - Wikipedia)
Why Aren’t Astronomers Paying More Attention To UFOs?
To the Stars (company - Wikipedia)
Why Aren’t Astronomers Paying More Attention To UFOs?
First of all, we don't need no stinkin "logical" thread.😡
You have added this, the quotes must not be altered, that is to infringe the rules of the forum .....
I'm sorry, but I have a habit of not reading anything on the web that asks to accept cookies, etc .....
Agreed. This thread may have run its course. There seems to be much more speculation and little thought behind many of the recent comments. I particularly disagree with speculations that can have no verification. People's brains seem to be "squirming like a toad" to paraphrase Jim Morrison. No sooner does an idea appeal to someone than that same person INVENTS a reason to believe it.
The whole idea of investigating it from a physics perspective is that it would be based on science and future experiment. In other words you could manipulate the field metrics of space so that inertia would be canceled during acceleration. The reason I thought it was important was because "theoretically" it could be proved or disproved experimentally. I still think that.
But reading the comments from so many people I feel like people don't even have a clue here about thinking logically. Or about moving slowly from experimental validation to further experimental validation on a rational timeline. As far as people more open to UFOs having visited us the arguments I've seen from many of those individuals, not all, makes me think that with friends like this who needs enemies. As Groucho Marx said, I would never want to belong to a club that would have me as a member.
The whole idea of investigating it from a physics perspective is that it would be based on science and future experiment. In other words you could manipulate the field metrics of space so that inertia would be canceled during acceleration. The reason I thought it was important was because "theoretically" it could be proved or disproved experimentally. I still think that.
But reading the comments from so many people I feel like people don't even have a clue here about thinking logically. Or about moving slowly from experimental validation to further experimental validation on a rational timeline. As far as people more open to UFOs having visited us the arguments I've seen from many of those individuals, not all, makes me think that with friends like this who needs enemies. As Groucho Marx said, I would never want to belong to a club that would have me as a member.
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I don’t understand all the handwringing about posts and whether this thread has “run its course”.
People clearly want to take the **** out of the subject and that just comes with the territory. No big deal.
It would be nice if we could steer clear of religious talk (for obvious reasons) but I expect some members may have authoritarian impulses and would rather poison the well with such discussion just to get the topic banned altogether.
I dunno. I think a lot of people don’t know that the subject was taken very seriously at one point and there’s a large historical record documenting the academic and military interest in the topic, going back 70+ years. Allen Hynek and Jacques Vallee are incredibly interesting figures in all this, maybe that’s just me.
There’s even been film recommendations. I’d love to hear what nonbelievers think of them.
SkyHub is a very modern project for anyone interested in helping track UAPs and gather data. It’s definitely worth checking out.
There seems to be plenty to discuss and debate.
If this thread is unappealing by all means steer clear of it.
People clearly want to take the **** out of the subject and that just comes with the territory. No big deal.
It would be nice if we could steer clear of religious talk (for obvious reasons) but I expect some members may have authoritarian impulses and would rather poison the well with such discussion just to get the topic banned altogether.
I dunno. I think a lot of people don’t know that the subject was taken very seriously at one point and there’s a large historical record documenting the academic and military interest in the topic, going back 70+ years. Allen Hynek and Jacques Vallee are incredibly interesting figures in all this, maybe that’s just me.
There’s even been film recommendations. I’d love to hear what nonbelievers think of them.
SkyHub is a very modern project for anyone interested in helping track UAPs and gather data. It’s definitely worth checking out.
There seems to be plenty to discuss and debate.
If this thread is unappealing by all means steer clear of it.
Aren't you forgetting something??
They're US!![]()
That would definitely explain the probing thing.
Very hard if not impossible to take it seriously. It is a serious hoot, though. 🙂
Kind of a fine line here between the way this topic is taken and the forbidden. They pretty well converge at the serious level you mention.
The woodwork appears to be loosened up a bit as well.
Kind of a fine line here between the way this topic is taken and the forbidden. They pretty well converge at the serious level you mention.
The woodwork appears to be loosened up a bit as well.
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