My current amp has a NE5534 front end into a 46 driving a 300b. I'm very happy with it. No feedback loop, however, but I thought I'd mention it for the sake of the op-amp/tube combination. The op-amp stage is x5.5 gain. This enables me to use two DHTs that I really love, without compromising with the usual 2 stage high mu IDHT for a 300b driver.
Maybe he meant that it has no global feedback cause the opamp circuit has a fixed 5.5 gain enough for his purposes
I have gain stage at 10db. Later will use a tilt/loudness and volume.
Yep I always power up new boards with 5532, its got to work with.
Yep I always power up new boards with 5532, its got to work with.
Any ideas on shielding octal glass tubes?
The board is using DC heaters but I can hear a faint 60hz hum from AC appliances nearby.
Metal tubes are an option but they are not as plentiful as glass.
The board is using DC heaters but I can hear a faint 60hz hum from AC appliances nearby.
Metal tubes are an option but they are not as plentiful as glass.
They are open , signal is g1, anode is g2 and 6v6 anode connected to its cathode.
This allows less cutoff g1 voltage.
The idea is to use 6v6 as shield. CCS is 700ua. Signalwise all is good.
Just a low level 60cps.
This allows less cutoff g1 voltage.
The idea is to use 6v6 as shield. CCS is 700ua. Signalwise all is good.
Just a low level 60cps.
Just checked with a metal 6v6j pin1 to gnd.
Its definitely ambient power line.
On swapping both channels are quiet with shielded tube.
Its definitely ambient power line.
On swapping both channels are quiet with shielded tube.
How about a smaller pentode like a 6au6, using the same logic, G2 as anode and anode as shield, a smaller pentode will certainly generate/pick lower hum cause lower filament current and smaller overall profile, Im currently doing experiments with tubes operating in a similar way for low gain linestage duty, but without opamps in the chain. 😀
Have yet to listen a 6ba6 as triode in that fashion 😱
I did several examples without opamps , they work great but need manual bias/centering which is ok. I did it now with opamp needing no adjust. The opamp is basically just a servo.
This one is line level with first stage headroom 8+ vrms.
fahaey,
Yes enclosure would do same but I wanted the hot-rod look.
No engine cover with big bottles. Its a tube amp thing so may as well let everyone see them. The line noise is low, Im just trying to make it zero.
Yes enclosure would do same but I wanted the hot-rod look.
No engine cover with big bottles. Its a tube amp thing so may as well let everyone see them. The line noise is low, Im just trying to make it zero.
Got some metal receiving tubes in to try.
I would say they are more 'articulate' using audiophile jargon.
The gain stage on output has a OPA1622 headphone opamp.
It does well as line amp too.
So headphone or line.
Don't want to say which metal tube because right now plenty out-there.
Output has a 330uf muse bp because of dc offset. Too much for the headphones.
If using as line only then jfet opamp would remove the output coupling caps.
I would say they are more 'articulate' using audiophile jargon.
The gain stage on output has a OPA1622 headphone opamp.
It does well as line amp too.
So headphone or line.
Don't want to say which metal tube because right now plenty out-there.
Output has a 330uf muse bp because of dc offset. Too much for the headphones.
If using as line only then jfet opamp would remove the output coupling caps.
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I have an inkling which tube you mean, confirmed by looking at the 3rd tube in your photo 😉
Also it's the first build I've seen, where screening copper tape has been used around film caps!
I have an inkling which tube you mean, confirmed by looking at the 3rd tube in your photo 😉
Also it's the first build I've seen, where screening copper tape has been used around film caps!
looking at schematic, the first stage output is a mirror of the tubes characteristic. each tube has its own fft spectra.
imo the ideal thd is around 0.2% for music. 60-70db range practicably inaudible but the sound is impressive and very natural sounding.
i use flac but life is injected into mp3 too.
we are 'stealing' the tubes work function profile.
the opamp is maintaining optimum bias point and providing a buffer out to tone-volume controls.
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Sort of an update, been doing subjective testing and find myself consistently returning to the tube in feedback. In fact I do not like listening to music without the ckt.
Here is a more complete schematic.
A better way of describing the circuit would be to say the linearized signal is discarded and the tube error signal is output.
Opamp dc output is bias at cutoff depending on current range.
Its usually in the -0.5 to -2.0 volt range. Minus 1 volt being average for various tubes. Grid never goes positive.
Current range is 300uA , 700uA and 1mA by using both CC.
Subjective testing is using 12BH7 which I find has excellent sound quality.
Here is a more complete schematic.
A better way of describing the circuit would be to say the linearized signal is discarded and the tube error signal is output.
Opamp dc output is bias at cutoff depending on current range.
Its usually in the -0.5 to -2.0 volt range. Minus 1 volt being average for various tubes. Grid never goes positive.
Current range is 300uA , 700uA and 1mA by using both CC.
Subjective testing is using 12BH7 which I find has excellent sound quality.
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Are you using a j-fet input opamp for the second op-amp or a bipolar one as divider for the output voltage of the tube?
if headphone is not used, a jfet opamp is preferred. A pad is not necessary since tone/bal/volume will have loss.
if using headphone opa1622 then output is coupled with 300uf muse cap.
Otherwise have to add more parts.
if using headphone opa1622 then output is coupled with 300uf muse cap.
Otherwise have to add more parts.
Since the circuit outputs only the error signal it can be used as a sort of fft tube tester.
I ordered a Cryoset EH 12BH7 and will compare the non-cryo to cryo here.
I use a motu M4 front end with two different software analyzers.
I'm aware of all the controversy etc but want to see the fft for myself.
I ordered a Cryoset EH 12BH7 and will compare the non-cryo to cryo here.
I use a motu M4 front end with two different software analyzers.
I'm aware of all the controversy etc but want to see the fft for myself.
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Here are the plots of non-cryo vs cryo EH12BH7.
The voltages were actual measured , one volt and 100 millivolt inputs. Ignore spl scale.
No third/fourth is seen on cryo but thd is higher.
Now I will listen a few weeks for subjective testing.
Here are the plots of non-cryo vs cryo EH12BH7.
The voltages were actual measured , one volt and 100 millivolt inputs. Ignore spl scale.
No third/fourth is seen on cryo but thd is higher.
Now I will listen a few weeks for subjective testing.
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