One specifically mentioned for SY.
It involves Feynman:
"As an undergraduate student at CALTECH in the late 1940’s, Marshall was fascinated by the advanced scientific knowledge found in the Bible’s story of creation. Genesis describes the creation of our solar system as occurring in a 6 “day” time frame.
His question was, how did this 5,000 year old Bible description of the birth of our solar system disclose the advanced scientific information (the ignition of our Sun occurs at the 4th “day”, in a 6 “day” creation process), thousands of years before we discovered it?
Uncertain how to unravel this puzzle, he questioned his Nobel laureate professors, Linus Pauling and Richard Feynman. Their powerful answers stayed with him for decades and inspired him to pursue the knowledge that he is now able to share with the readers of "Adam, The Missing Link."
http://www.adamthemissinglink.com/
It involves Feynman:
"As an undergraduate student at CALTECH in the late 1940’s, Marshall was fascinated by the advanced scientific knowledge found in the Bible’s story of creation. Genesis describes the creation of our solar system as occurring in a 6 “day” time frame.
His question was, how did this 5,000 year old Bible description of the birth of our solar system disclose the advanced scientific information (the ignition of our Sun occurs at the 4th “day”, in a 6 “day” creation process), thousands of years before we discovered it?
Uncertain how to unravel this puzzle, he questioned his Nobel laureate professors, Linus Pauling and Richard Feynman. Their powerful answers stayed with him for decades and inspired him to pursue the knowledge that he is now able to share with the readers of "Adam, The Missing Link."
http://www.adamthemissinglink.com/
Hmmm. I have been thinking...
If there are aliens, then surely they're not all good. Perhaps there are bad ones, just like there are bad humans, who would use our relatively undeveloped race to their gain.
Now assuming that aliens know a whole lot more about technology, science and the universe than we do, that would mean that they could have plenty more reasons to use us for our lack of knowledge/gullibility.
- keantoken
If there are aliens, then surely they're not all good. Perhaps there are bad ones, just like there are bad humans, who would use our relatively undeveloped race to their gain.
Now assuming that aliens know a whole lot more about technology, science and the universe than we do, that would mean that they could have plenty more reasons to use us for our lack of knowledge/gullibility.
- keantoken
keantoken said:
Me too.
I think we have to assume the opposite or we would have some sort of evidence of those abilities. Unless of course they're really sneaky and live among us already.
Cal Weldon said:
rfbrw said:We are and we do.
Nah, it's only people with psychological issues that believe they're aliens. The real aliens are so well integrated they've forgotten they're alien. 😉
What has always fascinated me about Genesis is that whoever wrote it seemed to understand the concept of a "void". To me this is a leap in abstract thinking on the same level as Einstein's realization of the concept of time dilation.
John
keantoken said:
This is true, but we always have to be careful here, we are making considerations of situations we do not really know about. Many times, most times, people 'project' upon situations, specifically they project their working model of reality upon things and potentials in thinking. This is fine, but one must always remember that projection of reality does not equal reality.* We will attach human fears to 'alien predictions', simply as we have no data to go on. The human condition is the situation where emotions create the framework for thought to ride on, specifically if the framework, thus the physical, thus the monkey--is threatened.
The same reasons that the ideas of aliens tend to fill the human animal with fear and similar considerations - is the same fault that most scientists, historians, etc suffer when looking at paradigm shifts in scientific thinking.
*This statement is patently false, in my experience, but that's another giant can of worms. It's a long story about waves and particles, to a degree.......
I'm sure there are good aliens and bad aliens...
I find it interesting how we humans tend to assume that if you do not receive sensory information about an existence's existence, then it does not exist... However, it is repeatably proven to us that the senses most widely known by us can easily be confused, deceived, drugged, and manipulated. Emotions tend to drive people to the point at times that they truly cannot distinguish between what is real, and what they want to be real... So I find that to truly see things how they 'are', then you must first understand yourself enough to distinguish between what's inside and what's out.
As I go through my own 'journey' through life, as you could call it, and keep learning more about myself, I keep finding that my subconscious mind is merging with my more conscious mind. It makes sense, doesn't it? Before you become aware of your emotions, they're part of your subconscious mind. But the more you understand yourself, the deeper you see of the whole picture.
However, the more I understand, the more I find that there is not necessarily a difference between what is outside, and what is inside, and the more I look the more I see what would seem to be rather than finite objects made of finite particles, something infinite which I can tap into and not only find the key to understanding anything and everything, but also experience reality and all its facets in an entirely broadened landscape.
So, I believe that with this resource at my disposal, I have nothing to fear. Not aliens, certainly not anything physical, and not even emotional struggle - which seems to be the quickest way to get there, in fact.
I can remember that last time I was in a forum discussion with you, KBK. I have come a so very long way since then. It seems that an infinite number of things can happen in as little time as a year.
- keantoken
I find it interesting how we humans tend to assume that if you do not receive sensory information about an existence's existence, then it does not exist... However, it is repeatably proven to us that the senses most widely known by us can easily be confused, deceived, drugged, and manipulated. Emotions tend to drive people to the point at times that they truly cannot distinguish between what is real, and what they want to be real... So I find that to truly see things how they 'are', then you must first understand yourself enough to distinguish between what's inside and what's out.
As I go through my own 'journey' through life, as you could call it, and keep learning more about myself, I keep finding that my subconscious mind is merging with my more conscious mind. It makes sense, doesn't it? Before you become aware of your emotions, they're part of your subconscious mind. But the more you understand yourself, the deeper you see of the whole picture.
However, the more I understand, the more I find that there is not necessarily a difference between what is outside, and what is inside, and the more I look the more I see what would seem to be rather than finite objects made of finite particles, something infinite which I can tap into and not only find the key to understanding anything and everything, but also experience reality and all its facets in an entirely broadened landscape.
So, I believe that with this resource at my disposal, I have nothing to fear. Not aliens, certainly not anything physical, and not even emotional struggle - which seems to be the quickest way to get there, in fact.
I can remember that last time I was in a forum discussion with you, KBK. I have come a so very long way since then. It seems that an infinite number of things can happen in as little time as a year.
- keantoken
True enough. Life changes can happen is as little as minutes but take a long time to absorb. Or a bit of each.
With the symmetrization of the EE model by Lorentz in 1892, just at the very beginning of electrical engineering, our electrical engineers have been trained to think, design, build, and deploy only symmetrical systems. Lorentz (at the bidding of J. P. Morgan) eliminated all remaining asymmetrical Maxwellian systems in the already sharply curtailed Heaviside equations, further limiting the already severely-limited Heaviside model and thus the electromagnetic science and technology that later grew up to be based on it.
http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/031808.htm
The vast majority (99.9%, it seems) of scientists, theorists, engineers, etc,are not aware that maxwell's equations, in their full form....allow for and basically DEMAND asymmetrical energy egress. Ie, 'over unity'.
Which is why he died of stomach cancer, before finishing,and his work was so heavily edited (and falsely so) by Heaviside..and the true equations are so difficult to come by.
Your screwing is at least 100 years deep.
Think about that for a while.
With the symmetrization of the EE model by Lorentz in 1892, just at the very beginning of electrical engineering, our electrical engineers have been trained to think, design, build, and deploy only symmetrical systems. Lorentz (at the bidding of J. P. Morgan) eliminated all remaining asymmetrical Maxwellian systems in the already sharply curtailed Heaviside equations, further limiting the already severely-limited Heaviside model and thus the electromagnetic science and technology that later grew up to be based on it.
http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/031808.htm
The vast majority (99.9%, it seems) of scientists, theorists, engineers, etc,are not aware that maxwell's equations, in their full form....allow for and basically DEMAND asymmetrical energy egress. Ie, 'over unity'.
Which is why he died of stomach cancer, before finishing,and his work was so heavily edited (and falsely so) by Heaviside..and the true equations are so difficult to come by.
Your screwing is at least 100 years deep.
Think about that for a while.
Hmmm, I must comment on my earlier post.
First of all, just because I said I had nothing to fear, does not mean that I do not fear. Yes, I'm still human, I'm afraid.
But what I said I still believe, though.
I'm curious, KBK. Have you ever run across this site?
I will admit that the site is seemingly lucrative, as the science is not the main focus. It rather shows you how to discover the knowledge on your own, more than just telling you, mainly because the information isn't simple enough to be conveyed via 2D mediums such as paper or HTML script. That and, of course, if you want to understand anything well, hands-on experience is the way to go.
If you haven't found it, then you may want to take a look because it definitely bears knowledge close in kind to that of the link in your signature - except with more information and presented in a more complete manner. Unfortunately, if you want the whole picture you have to order the books... Like I said the site isn't based around the science, although they call it 'Keylontic Science'. But from what I've seen it's well worth it for the new conceptual way it teaches you to understand the universe, dimensions, and the true nature of time, instead of relying on mathematical equations, but rather our own minds using the tools that, ever since we lost awareness of them, have been lying buried in our consciousness for millennium upon millennium.
Also, this information might also give you insight as to the credibility of your own sources. The distortions, if there be any, in the link in your signature, according to this knowledge would not be of the easily detectable kind like what people have tried to do to keep the oil industry in business. To thwart these foes takes self-ascertained knowledge of the universe and it's workings not commonly known about. By self-ascertained I mean knowledge who's grasp on reality is hard enough that it's not just equations and mathematics that makes you sure that it's the truth. And to obtain this knowledge takes serious personal inquiry. It's the kind of thing that is very hard to put down in words and describe to someone who has not experienced it before. And I'm sure you understand that concept, KBK, which is the only reason I'm writing this.
I'm not sure how much you know, so sorry if this is all old stuff to you, at any rate there is no doubt you know more about any kind of science than I do. I was just trying to show you a new resource, that I wasn't sure you had come across before. looking this site up on Google Trends gives too few hits to graph.
- keantoken
First of all, just because I said I had nothing to fear, does not mean that I do not fear. Yes, I'm still human, I'm afraid.
But what I said I still believe, though.
I'm curious, KBK. Have you ever run across this site?
I will admit that the site is seemingly lucrative, as the science is not the main focus. It rather shows you how to discover the knowledge on your own, more than just telling you, mainly because the information isn't simple enough to be conveyed via 2D mediums such as paper or HTML script. That and, of course, if you want to understand anything well, hands-on experience is the way to go.
If you haven't found it, then you may want to take a look because it definitely bears knowledge close in kind to that of the link in your signature - except with more information and presented in a more complete manner. Unfortunately, if you want the whole picture you have to order the books... Like I said the site isn't based around the science, although they call it 'Keylontic Science'. But from what I've seen it's well worth it for the new conceptual way it teaches you to understand the universe, dimensions, and the true nature of time, instead of relying on mathematical equations, but rather our own minds using the tools that, ever since we lost awareness of them, have been lying buried in our consciousness for millennium upon millennium.
Also, this information might also give you insight as to the credibility of your own sources. The distortions, if there be any, in the link in your signature, according to this knowledge would not be of the easily detectable kind like what people have tried to do to keep the oil industry in business. To thwart these foes takes self-ascertained knowledge of the universe and it's workings not commonly known about. By self-ascertained I mean knowledge who's grasp on reality is hard enough that it's not just equations and mathematics that makes you sure that it's the truth. And to obtain this knowledge takes serious personal inquiry. It's the kind of thing that is very hard to put down in words and describe to someone who has not experienced it before. And I'm sure you understand that concept, KBK, which is the only reason I'm writing this.
I'm not sure how much you know, so sorry if this is all old stuff to you, at any rate there is no doubt you know more about any kind of science than I do. I was just trying to show you a new resource, that I wasn't sure you had come across before. looking this site up on Google Trends gives too few hits to graph.
- keantoken
Most sites that have such things can be a bit myopic (one viewed) in their 'look-abouts' or views, which is the part of their intrinsic danger. Some individuals need such structure..some do not. I don't go for any structure, but that's just me. The problem lies in when one group or individual speaks on having a 'true answer', and that itself is the warning and danger point. I'm not quite sure what that site says or is trying to say, in the specific, but what I've found is that truths are shaped by the mind (interactive and involved process, ie, Heisenberg), and thus these things can easily lend themselves to misinterpretation. Reality is beginning, even to mainstream science-to show itself to be a consensus consideration, ie, 'group mass' - setting the tone and result.
What am I trying to say? Be careful, is what. As usual, 'do-what-ya-gotta-do' kinda thing, but always remember to re-group and address things as unknowns waiting to be misinterpreted, and do it often. Otherwise it can get messy. Think of yourself as a computer/entity (organic and other) that is operating on itself, in order to fundamentally reconstruct along a better line. Caution is always advised.
Here's the guy's personal website:
http://www.drunvalo.net/
I read one of his books, the most recent, and it was interesting. I can 'grok' it quite fully, but it's more than a bit 'out there' for most folks.
The problem comes when most folks are going to be (nearly no doubt about it, but exceptions sometimes happen) more than a bit derisive to such comments and thinking.
This is due to the point that most people are not aware that there about 8 to 10 levels of reality and awareness above that of the 'football and pizza' lifestyle crowd. Each threshold for each level is shrouded in a point where sheer emotionally based disbelief rules over the more realistic attempts by the intellect to understand the proposed point.
Panic sets in and usually anger and or fear rule their arguments and positions, even though the given person will argue to their dying point/life that they are being reasonable. This is the essence of the psyche's rule of the brain, and is part and parcel of the situation.
Meaning, the brain must reform on the the emotional basis (utilizing intellect and similar)-which is really what is ruling the situation-before the individual can go through the entirely real and physical aspect of re-constructing the mind to the new paradigm that has been presented. Which is, literally painful in the extreme, takes time, and is not an easy task most times. A nasty pleasure/pain/reward/punishment cycle. New knowledge unfolds..the mind reforms..the mind learns...and then..eventually a NEW level is achieved..and the next 'challenge to the known reality' emerges. "calming the monkey" is key to the process. Stilling the mind and all that.
Part of that point is when one's mind, body, and psyche 'gets comfortable' in a particular groove..and forgets, quite conveniently!--- that the given destination is not the point. The journey is. The ego always tries to re-establish itself, as the physical point of human existence has evolved this way. The window of the world that the 'body' sees and deals with does create this consideration..and one must always be aware of that. That's why the monks live on mountains, it's like running a hard marathon to the end-and they've forgone human interaction to prevent the interaction from slowing their personal journey to the end points of the ideal of physicality.
If you've seen the film Monty Python's 'Life Of Brian', it is stated quite well in the moment where the two factions are created, in "Follow the Gourd! NO! Follow the Shoe!"..and the two factions run off in their different directions....and ignore the one man who advises that they stop and consider what the hell they are doing.
Quite true, common - and hilarious.
What am I trying to say? Be careful, is what. As usual, 'do-what-ya-gotta-do' kinda thing, but always remember to re-group and address things as unknowns waiting to be misinterpreted, and do it often. Otherwise it can get messy. Think of yourself as a computer/entity (organic and other) that is operating on itself, in order to fundamentally reconstruct along a better line. Caution is always advised.
Here's the guy's personal website:
http://www.drunvalo.net/
I read one of his books, the most recent, and it was interesting. I can 'grok' it quite fully, but it's more than a bit 'out there' for most folks.
The problem comes when most folks are going to be (nearly no doubt about it, but exceptions sometimes happen) more than a bit derisive to such comments and thinking.
This is due to the point that most people are not aware that there about 8 to 10 levels of reality and awareness above that of the 'football and pizza' lifestyle crowd. Each threshold for each level is shrouded in a point where sheer emotionally based disbelief rules over the more realistic attempts by the intellect to understand the proposed point.
Panic sets in and usually anger and or fear rule their arguments and positions, even though the given person will argue to their dying point/life that they are being reasonable. This is the essence of the psyche's rule of the brain, and is part and parcel of the situation.
Meaning, the brain must reform on the the emotional basis (utilizing intellect and similar)-which is really what is ruling the situation-before the individual can go through the entirely real and physical aspect of re-constructing the mind to the new paradigm that has been presented. Which is, literally painful in the extreme, takes time, and is not an easy task most times. A nasty pleasure/pain/reward/punishment cycle. New knowledge unfolds..the mind reforms..the mind learns...and then..eventually a NEW level is achieved..and the next 'challenge to the known reality' emerges. "calming the monkey" is key to the process. Stilling the mind and all that.
Part of that point is when one's mind, body, and psyche 'gets comfortable' in a particular groove..and forgets, quite conveniently!--- that the given destination is not the point. The journey is. The ego always tries to re-establish itself, as the physical point of human existence has evolved this way. The window of the world that the 'body' sees and deals with does create this consideration..and one must always be aware of that. That's why the monks live on mountains, it's like running a hard marathon to the end-and they've forgone human interaction to prevent the interaction from slowing their personal journey to the end points of the ideal of physicality.
If you've seen the film Monty Python's 'Life Of Brian', it is stated quite well in the moment where the two factions are created, in "Follow the Gourd! NO! Follow the Shoe!"..and the two factions run off in their different directions....and ignore the one man who advises that they stop and consider what the hell they are doing.
Quite true, common - and hilarious.
Yes, If I was at any desired destination right now, then I wouldn't still be limited to walking this earth.
I've talked to a few people on such subjects as these, all of them did not forget to give me a word of caution.
In reality, I make it a point to never forget the times and experiences I had before I begun walking my own 'spiritual road'. My previous experiences aid greatly in me finding any kind of happiness, as they are the building blocks of everything I know, they are the reference points by which I view the new knowledge I am attaining. My past emotional struggles an triumphs come together to form my own sort of 'concept' of what truly living is all about, and by losing sight of that I let my last foot off the ground - and I begin floating about in the stars, where I was originally reaching from my headquarters on Planet Earth.
As for regrouping and assessing, I've learned the hard way to do that, because my own misconceptions invariably become my greatest wounds, and they hurt very, very, much. I have a feeling that whatever's out there does not intend for me to go astray.
So, KBK, is this thread like your personal blog of sorts? I actually think a thread like this is a more ideal place to do this than a blog, because there is no one 'route' that is focused on and anything can be discussed. Topics like this are too fluid to be railroaded to any solid form.
- keantoken
I think it's more of a way for the moderators of the forum to allow me to spout crap that the rest of the folks on the board can conveniently ignore. It just ended up that way, but there you go. Life in action.
Mostly, I try to keep to the topic, which is to relieve the unrecognized base stress in people who don't quite get it, by giving them some avenues of getting to some clarity, by providing some ideas which hint nicely-through science. Crackpot seeming stuff or not. The very vast majority of it is 110% spot-on. This is difficult for many to accept, so I take hits and crap from folk, but it's like water off a ducks back, for me.
For example, I've tested the two-stage mechanical oscillator-and it works just fine.
I spent $6,000.00 on a 1600L per hour 'browns gas' generator, and the damned thing does some absolutely mind boggling stuff.
What I'm saying is that all the so-called poo I've spouted in this thread is hyper-real. Folks have a hard time accepting and swallowing it, as it goes against what they've been taught, and how they've been raised.
They'll have to get past those difficult points all on their own. We all will be dealing with this stuff--soon enough.
For example it is a WELL KNOWN FACT that many-many-many motor/pumps, for example, for clearing the water out of small mining operations in Africa..are running on 50% water and 50% diesel.
Yes. That's exactly true.
Power is down, but the things work very, very well -Thank you very much.
Simple things like that. That alone should be raising eyebrows and curiosity-big time. But some just stop by to crack me on the head for disturbing their 'world view' peace. Misguided as it might be.
We're dealing with these multi-dimensional aspects of the gyroscopic particles we like to call matter,and their vibrational aspects, with regards to their specific localized 'mass' considerations..and 'resonance' of said gyroscopic particles.
Like many folks have said, you cannot solve these problems in physics that are in front of them, without stepping well outside of them. I did that long ago, and thus these so called 'problems' in physics aren't problems for me anymore. I fully recognize their source points and the commonality between them. Without the stepping outside of the issue and with the simplistic scientific 'break it down' methodology, it is no small wonder they can't find the answers to these issues.
Then there is the issue of suppression. Which is not suitable to talk about here-an incredibly huge issue - it is.
All it takes is ONE of these points to get across to those who like to think of themselves as 'scientifically literate'...and then Pandora's box opens so wide..there is no closing it for that individual. Ever.
Which is the point, here. 🙂
Mostly, I try to keep to the topic, which is to relieve the unrecognized base stress in people who don't quite get it, by giving them some avenues of getting to some clarity, by providing some ideas which hint nicely-through science. Crackpot seeming stuff or not. The very vast majority of it is 110% spot-on. This is difficult for many to accept, so I take hits and crap from folk, but it's like water off a ducks back, for me.
For example, I've tested the two-stage mechanical oscillator-and it works just fine.
I spent $6,000.00 on a 1600L per hour 'browns gas' generator, and the damned thing does some absolutely mind boggling stuff.
What I'm saying is that all the so-called poo I've spouted in this thread is hyper-real. Folks have a hard time accepting and swallowing it, as it goes against what they've been taught, and how they've been raised.
They'll have to get past those difficult points all on their own. We all will be dealing with this stuff--soon enough.
For example it is a WELL KNOWN FACT that many-many-many motor/pumps, for example, for clearing the water out of small mining operations in Africa..are running on 50% water and 50% diesel.
Yes. That's exactly true.
Power is down, but the things work very, very well -Thank you very much.
Simple things like that. That alone should be raising eyebrows and curiosity-big time. But some just stop by to crack me on the head for disturbing their 'world view' peace. Misguided as it might be.
We're dealing with these multi-dimensional aspects of the gyroscopic particles we like to call matter,and their vibrational aspects, with regards to their specific localized 'mass' considerations..and 'resonance' of said gyroscopic particles.
Like many folks have said, you cannot solve these problems in physics that are in front of them, without stepping well outside of them. I did that long ago, and thus these so called 'problems' in physics aren't problems for me anymore. I fully recognize their source points and the commonality between them. Without the stepping outside of the issue and with the simplistic scientific 'break it down' methodology, it is no small wonder they can't find the answers to these issues.
Then there is the issue of suppression. Which is not suitable to talk about here-an incredibly huge issue - it is.
All it takes is ONE of these points to get across to those who like to think of themselves as 'scientifically literate'...and then Pandora's box opens so wide..there is no closing it for that individual. Ever.
Which is the point, here. 🙂
About that Drunvalo guy... I have heard absolutely no reference to him on the Azurite Press website. I think you are mistaken.
I cannot be entirely sure that he is what he says, or perhaps thinks, he is. In fact, the Spirit Of Maat site gives no direct matches for searching 'Voyagers volume 2', which is a book that can be ordered from the Azurite Press website.
I suggest that you look again, and maybe point out my mistakes, if I made one. I would strongly suggest you look at the information on the site, and in the books particularly, and verify the credibility for yourself.
- keantoken
I cannot be entirely sure that he is what he says, or perhaps thinks, he is. In fact, the Spirit Of Maat site gives no direct matches for searching 'Voyagers volume 2', which is a book that can be ordered from the Azurite Press website.
I suggest that you look again, and maybe point out my mistakes, if I made one. I would strongly suggest you look at the information on the site, and in the books particularly, and verify the credibility for yourself.
- keantoken