Seattles right on average at 19c today. Having grown up here, not much has changed in 72 years other than snow not falling every year. Few days a year it gets pretty hot but that’s always been about the same. I’ve watched the puget sound water level & it has never changed on the beach I frequent.
I have always wondered about living on a rock spinning through space/time how much we really understand…of course we always need larger heatsinks!
I have always wondered about living on a rock spinning through space/time how much we really understand…of course we always need larger heatsinks!
We got slammed. I live in Unicoi county. Our hospital is under water.
People rescued from top of hospital
People rescued from top of hospital
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Here is the map with weather related road closures in North Carolina. State of North Carolina advises not driving in the western portion of the state.
https://drivenc.gov/
https://drivenc.gov/
If you look at that map, the Blue Ridge Mountains contour to the upper portion. TN is to the north in the western portion. It (damage) actually extends all the way to VA.
Asheville and upper west NC got the brunt of it. Looking Glass Mountain, Chimney Rock, Lake Lure, Asheville, etc were inundated with rainfall. It dissipated somewhat after passing over the Blue Ridge Mountains, but still retained enough clout to put a hurting on TN and VA. I amassed over 16" or rain in Johnson City in a 24 hr period. I-26 washed out in Erwin, in addition to the town of Erwin and it's hospital were flooded. TN had dams on the verge of collapse near Knoxville. I have heard Blackhawk helicopters all day in rescue missions.
It I listened well to the news here, they mention that Helene's being the #3 most powerful in the last 50 years.
Anyone heard from George yet?
Helene was bad considering it went from tropical storm to a Cat 4 in maybe two days and not taking a long path from the Atlantic Ocean.
Also they thought it would get steered towards the west after it got farther inland and instead a high pressure front stalled it causing massive flooding.
I know a college kid who evacuated from Tampa to Tennessee and wound up stranded on high ground and out of reach for a day or so. She may not get out right away for sure.
Helene was bad considering it went from tropical storm to a Cat 4 in maybe two days and not taking a long path from the Atlantic Ocean.
Also they thought it would get steered towards the west after it got farther inland and instead a high pressure front stalled it causing massive flooding.
I know a college kid who evacuated from Tampa to Tennessee and wound up stranded on high ground and out of reach for a day or so. She may not get out right away for sure.
On hurricane Helene ....
I watched it as it gathered most of the tropical moisture from the northern Caribbean. The Caribbean was AT LEAST 2C warmer
than typical. Same with the gulf of Mexico , Helene grabbed all that +2-3C anomaly moisture.
then all that moisture got accelerated right at the Roan/Mitchell area to the Appalachians.
NO way this could not of done - what it did ! Mitchell / Roan got 2-3 feet.
Most of those trillions of gallons of water drained north to the French broad - Nolichucky drainages. Yikes !
Actually , NOT having any tropical systems (to steal the heat) , contributed to this horrible event.
Is this "global warming" ?? 2C of increased sea temp. = 30% more moisture. Heat energy needs to go somewhere...
Anything else that forms over the Caribbean-Gulf will do the same thing. It's not really cooling down in the winters
anymore , at least for the last 3-5 years. 30C water year round !
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I watched it as it gathered most of the tropical moisture from the northern Caribbean. The Caribbean was AT LEAST 2C warmer
than typical. Same with the gulf of Mexico , Helene grabbed all that +2-3C anomaly moisture.
then all that moisture got accelerated right at the Roan/Mitchell area to the Appalachians.
NO way this could not of done - what it did ! Mitchell / Roan got 2-3 feet.
Most of those trillions of gallons of water drained north to the French broad - Nolichucky drainages. Yikes !
Actually , NOT having any tropical systems (to steal the heat) , contributed to this horrible event.
Is this "global warming" ?? 2C of increased sea temp. = 30% more moisture. Heat energy needs to go somewhere...
Anything else that forms over the Caribbean-Gulf will do the same thing. It's not really cooling down in the winters
anymore , at least for the last 3-5 years. 30C water year round !
OS
It's ******* not usualy cold here in this end of september/beginning of october ! We hit the record of cold for that period from 25 years.
We have from more than 15 years indian summer here in France more or less after August, but not this year... 15°c average last weak around Paris. No heating for the buildings from the colllective heating by town collective heating.(Of course some buildings are free with their own heating, individual or collective (buiding basement). But most of the timme , internal buildings rules between propriors, specifie a 15 october for re start vcollective heating (most of the time ending end of April in France).
Here (France) when people rent, you have not the rigth to heat below 19°C.
For the towns, laws are difficult, but if in the buildings you have old healed people and babies, both said fragile people, the law that is saying you can not go below 18°c in colllective buildings (i.e. in your flat) for all (understand not the olds and the very youngs), you shouldn't go above 19°C because energy collective effort about saving and global warming. But you have rhe rigth from a building with many flats to go upside 19°C up to 22°C if you have an old and healed people or a baby in that building !
I have a thermal disease after I read all the laws ,construction code, public health code, etc ! Ah France....
We have from more than 15 years indian summer here in France more or less after August, but not this year... 15°c average last weak around Paris. No heating for the buildings from the colllective heating by town collective heating.(Of course some buildings are free with their own heating, individual or collective (buiding basement). But most of the timme , internal buildings rules between propriors, specifie a 15 october for re start vcollective heating (most of the time ending end of April in France).
Here (France) when people rent, you have not the rigth to heat below 19°C.
For the towns, laws are difficult, but if in the buildings you have old healed people and babies, both said fragile people, the law that is saying you can not go below 18°c in colllective buildings (i.e. in your flat) for all (understand not the olds and the very youngs), you shouldn't go above 19°C because energy collective effort about saving and global warming. But you have rhe rigth from a building with many flats to go upside 19°C up to 22°C if you have an old and healed people or a baby in that building !
I have a thermal disease after I read all the laws ,construction code, public health code, etc ! Ah France....
France and GB are about to get what is left over from "KIRK". Nice tropical warm moisture sucked up from the African ITCZ.
The USA (Florida) is about to have the next "punishment due". "Milton" near the Tabasco state is set to suck the 34C water all
the way W to E on the bathwater Gulf. Cat 2/3..... Nah ! Same as anything at 34C (4/5). With the lack of shear , ANYTHING that forms
in the Gulf does "rapid intensification" , sporting pretty eyewalls ringed with constant lightning.
This is the new norm for a shallow body of water that rarely drops below 30C !
PS - watch ! cat. 4+ catastrophic destruction - Tampa to Orlando !
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The USA (Florida) is about to have the next "punishment due". "Milton" near the Tabasco state is set to suck the 34C water all
the way W to E on the bathwater Gulf. Cat 2/3..... Nah ! Same as anything at 34C (4/5). With the lack of shear , ANYTHING that forms
in the Gulf does "rapid intensification" , sporting pretty eyewalls ringed with constant lightning.
This is the new norm for a shallow body of water that rarely drops below 30C !
PS - watch ! cat. 4+ catastrophic destruction - Tampa to Orlando !
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It’s almost like Mother Nature is demonstrably pissed, and after decades of ignoring warnings and accelerating our effen around, we’re getting to the find out part.
Seems France and Germany to be the winners of the bigger temp elevation in Europe; Gulf Stream weaker, and so on. GB gets warmer too but not as fast... soon a better to make red wine and tea, lol (good wine must have not too much sun or it kills all the subtilities)
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Yes , predictions are coming true . NHC just upped the intensity track to "M" for half the gulf. 34C water is good for "M"s.
PS - can't wait to see the continuous lightning ringed eyewall as it flattens Tampa and blows 20 ft storm surge over Sarasota.
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Or back to the norm. I read that our present 59F (15C) is quite the anomaly. Most of the earth history was 65-70F+(19-25C) average.
The typical Earth would have a totally uninhabitable zone from +/- 15 degrees from the equator , 2 FAT tropical zones 15-30N/S
skinny desert zones (DC=Smoky mountains) , and a FAT temperate zone from NY all the way to the arctic circle.
N. America has the Gulf as a (negative) buffer for such a zonal regime to set up .
What makes this present "global warming" a bad thing is the fact that we might push it to this old norm in 50 years. life on Earth
typically has millennia to shift zones and adapt to such massive climate changes.
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Not good , no shear with 30-32C deep water "hottub" in the gulf of Mexico.
Might hit south of Tampa , pull the water OUT of the bay. They better hope it does ,
Conservative 150mph / 240kph forecast . Might even go all the way.
A crazy lightning ringed eye by noon tomorrow.
It looks like about the worst case scenario is set to happen.
Poor Florida. My sister lives in Orlando , Mickey Mouse will keep her safe
while she has her "hurricane party" .....
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