The use of force

😀😀😀 Those are very weird people, think they are a species of their own, not a lot of them around in the whole world, would not let them in to my house ! Can use them as a guard dog ! JP, yes zef is something like a pure bred redneck.
 

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The dog harassment on my daily bike ride has now escalated to require the use of force. Guns can land one in too much trouble. Thinking about getting Dr Feelgood out of mothballs again, but it’s too unwieldy to use at speed. Back at university commuting through the ghetto every day it served me well. Water bottle full of ammonia perhaps? Or maybe tine for another 125 dB sonic disruptor (50 volts RMS into a piezo tweeter).
They say "spare the rod, spoil the child". IOW, if you must use capital punishment, so be it.
I came home one day and my wife was watching Caesar Milan on The Dog Whisperer. First I saw of him. The episode with the seriously laid back cop in tears who was at his wit's end. Caesar simply asked him.."What do you do on the job to convey authority"(paraphrased)?



"Well we have what we call 'command presence'".


"Oh, well that's how you have to deal with this dog!"


He then took immediate control of the dog. Amazing.



So there just happened to be a border collie a few doors down from us that was regularly let out to roam the neighborhood to drop it's load on someone else's lawn so it's @$$hole owner wouldn't have to pick it up. The more aggressively I tried shooing it away the more aggressively it would respond to the point of baring it's teeth and growling. It simply would not back down.
After watching that episode, on the very next day as I'm getting out of my van, here comes that dog sauntering up the street to have our usual confrontation, like it was waiting for me to get home. I turned to face it as I closed my van door, heaved my chest out while rising up on my feet and just looked down at it sternly. Well, it lowered it's head submissively, slowly turned around, tucked it's tail between it's legs and sauntered back where it came from. Not a sound from either of us. I was absolutely dumbfounded. That dog never confronted me again or do it's business on my lawn.

The main message in Caesar's lessons is that dogs are basically intuitive. They know full well how sure and confident you are. Communication is ongoing every second whether you recognize it or not. They are in a conversation as soon as they lay eyes on you, sometimes before.

I don't mean to suggest there aren't lots of circumstances where you simply have to defend yourself by any means available.
Caesar's motto is "I train dogs and rehabilitate people". A dog out of control is lacking leadership. FWIW 🙂
 
After watching that episode, on the very next day as I'm getting out of my van, here comes that dog sauntering up the street to have our usual confrontation, like it was waiting for me to get home. I turned to face it as I closed my van door, heaved my chest out while rising up on my feet and just looked down at it sternly. Well, it lowered it's head submissively, slowly turned around, tucked it's tail between it's legs and sauntered back where it came from. Not a sound from either of us. I was absolutely dumbfounded. That dog never confronted me again or do it's business on my lawn.

Oh, it wasn’t the first confrontation. I’ve gotten knocked off the bike and chased them back to the yard before - they only get aggressive when I’m mounted. On foot they cower in fear.

There was this one black pittie mix that ran its yap for about a quarter mile beside me every day on the commute to work some 10 years ago. One day I ended up having to STOP in front of its house because of the school bus loading. While I was standing there straddling the bike it grabbed me by the tights (it was winter, about 28 degrees) and yanked me over. All the kids laughed their ***** off. I got up and chased him onto his front porch into his “mommy’s” arms. Not a peep ever again. It would just watch me go by. Maybe I did look like a burglar - might have been trying to protect his kid but this is ridiculous and un-called-for especially when the weather is less than pleasant. I hate cold.

Didn’t see anybody today - other than a 6 pound ankle biter on another part of the course. It’s no threat and simply gets ignored. Just hope it doesn’t go under the wheels. When that happens to squirrels and possums (both are very dumb) the outcome isn’t so good for it.
 
I once used a zapper on a mosquito sitting on my ear...nice jolt.
You can take the head off and make a crude cattle prod.
But it has to touch the skin because I think hair will not conduct so well.
They are cheap, and the guts are also available, even entire circuits from transit damaged bodies, rechargeable too.
 
1) that is a dangerous wound, on many counts.

2) which means it´s a DANGEROUS dog, and has already gone beyond the point of no return.

IF possible (legalities change all over the place) get rid of it, a little lead pill being potent medicine.

If not, I would not waste time on psychological tricks (obey!!! I am your MASTER!!!), mosquito repellants or blue Leds, but *minimum* go chemical: bear spray or the baddest arsest available pepper spray, those which do not vaporize but throw a solid thick jet 20 feet away some kind of cattle prod, electrical or with sharp spikes or at least a walking cane equivalent with a heavy metal ball at the end.
Meaning with an enraged dog you must get *physical*, you must shun it away on first contact, within seconds, period.

Courts/lawyers are a slow, unreliable and expensive solution, except maybe if you can show important wounds as on the OP and that is enough for definitive action.

Among other incidents, I was attcked and bitten several times by a German Shepherd which was the pet of some Coast Guard guys (I live on a river coast).

They refused to take action ("he´s a saint", "wouldn´t hurt a fly", "you must have done something to him").
My "sin"? Jogging every night (on Doctor´s orders) by their guard post, where he detected me even 50 meters before reaching it and came running to meet/bully me.

Its fate was sealed when a friend heard Guards saying "hey doggie, your dinner/toy is coming!!!"

A few days later he "somehow" got ill and went to Dog Heaven .... lots of nasty chemicals laying around in a "do everything" shop, no details needed or offered since that would be way beyond Forum rules.

As of the Arminius revolver mentioned above, the original one was a Galand (Belgium) one called, go figure, VeloDog , which even used its own proprietary round.

Velo-dog - Wikipedia
Velo meaning Bicycle in French, so that was the intended use..

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Most comments show good knowledge of dogs.
It all boils to: They are pack animals. Normal dogs do behave as such. There remains the risk, it is not so.
Fortunately most dogs are not pack leaders, so one can dominate them. The look straight in the eyes is mostly effective, however if you are in front of a real pack leader, it will attack right away.
You still have a chance to survive this because dogs rarely go at killing, they mostly simulate to impress then stop to avoid real bad wounds.
 
Coincidentally last night the door bell rang at 0:07. It was the neighbours coming for me to go together to another neighbor that has a dog kept outside (unusual here) barking the whole night for months in a row. Took a while but the daughter opened the door. Replied that more complaints were received (?!?) en that "she only howls when she is left outside"...

With such a thinking pattern one should not be allowed to have pets.