I want it on my ambience, but very little on mains, just enough on phantom parts and nothing on the sides. Believe me, I tried 
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There is a reson I removed all early reflections. The increase in clarity is worth it. Voices that can spook you, as if they are real. That's the goal. Instruments are more forgiving, but voices can really get to you.
At least, that's how i see or hear it. It's an almost impossible goal, but fun!
.There is a reson I removed all early reflections. The increase in clarity is worth it. Voices that can spook you, as if they are real. That's the goal. Instruments are more forgiving, but voices can really get to you.
At least, that's how i see or hear it. It's an almost impossible goal, but fun!
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ehhh reason....
The only reason to want to have it on the phantom part? To "reconstruct" the holes left by crosstalk, because it works. The brain kicks in and fills in the rest.
The slight touch of reverb, even when it's 7 ms behind the mains, fills the left and right speakers with differing reflections, which completes the missing parts.
Got some time today to listen, last time my son took the listening seat and I only got one song out of it .
I must say, getting close to what I want/love. One thing still nags me a bit, I have an asymmetrical setup, and that does result in a stronger left side than the right side when listening. The phantom part is dead on straight ahead, but somehow the right side feels less "full", the emphasis is always on the left (where the walls with damping panels are). Due to the walls there that are missing from the right side, it isn't shocking that you'd hear it being different, but it's harder to make up for. I'll try though.
Wall(s) on the left side (with damping panel), fire place and open on the right side.
Maybe I can use the Multichannel setup disk to show differences in SPL. First I need to find a proper time slot again for these kind of exercises.
On other fronts, like the potential for even bass output etc, the asymmetrical part of the room is helping out. We had a famous football player called Johan Cruijff who said: Every advantage has its disadvantage. I guess he was right.
.I must say, getting close to what I want/love. One thing still nags me a bit, I have an asymmetrical setup, and that does result in a stronger left side than the right side when listening. The phantom part is dead on straight ahead, but somehow the right side feels less "full", the emphasis is always on the left (where the walls with damping panels are). Due to the walls there that are missing from the right side, it isn't shocking that you'd hear it being different, but it's harder to make up for. I'll try though.
Wall(s) on the left side (with damping panel), fire place and open on the right side.
Maybe I can use the Multichannel setup disk to show differences in SPL. First I need to find a proper time slot again for these kind of exercises.
On other fronts, like the potential for even bass output etc, the asymmetrical part of the room is helping out. We had a famous football player called Johan Cruijff who said: Every advantage has its disadvantage. I guess he was right
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One thing still nags me a bit, I have an asymmetrical setup, and that does result in a stronger left side than the right side when listening. The phantom part is dead on straight ahead, but somehow the right side feels less "full", the emphasis is always on the left (where the walls with damping panels are). Due to the walls there that are missing from the right side, it isn't shocking that you'd hear it being different, but it's harder to make up for.
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Maybe I can use the Multichannel setup disk to show differences in SPL. First I need to find a proper time slot again for these kind of exercises.
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If you mentioned this issue so concisely elsewhere in the thread, I’m forgetting.
I’ve a variation of this issue in reverse: right wall totally untreated (besides a couch); left wall has room-length, floor-to-ceiling shelves. I don’t remove early reflections so L / R interactions with sidewalls should be different.
The effect = dominant right channel in many (most?) recordings, although the phantom center is generally large enough that, as you said, remains spot-on.
The idea of using a multi-channel disk to test SPL is a good one. Wish I still had my last multi-channel receiver…
and the time to use it!
What would happen if you slightly increased overall gain for your right channel, in this regard?
I can do better than that... I already split the Stereo signal into it's mid and side components and as such I can raise the right channel level without upsetting the phantom balance. But, there's always a but in Audio, raising the right channel will also influence the left, as there's a -L component in that right channel. So it's a balancing act, as always. The Phantom part is L+R, which means it already contains part of the the left and right channel. The side information is L-R for left and R-L for the right. So small tweaks is all it takes.
For Home Theatre I already tweak channel balance as if I really have a dedicated center channel. For stereo it works a little different because that center actually contains the side info as well. But I can balance left and right independently.