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I HAVE tons of his wire here in my room 🙂 its very nice stuff, easy to work with, and sounds amazing 🙂
Navships cables does look good
But seems all to be silver plated copper
Silver plated cables have NEVER sounded good to me
Are there no real silver cables
Fore plated copper I really prefer tin plated
They seem to sound ok
But seems all to be silver plated copper
Silver plated cables have NEVER sounded good to me
Are there no real silver cables
Fore plated copper I really prefer tin plated
They seem to sound ok
IMHO, there is no one cable/wire makes everyone to give thumbs up. If there was one, we wouldn't be chatting here 😀 Regardless, it is always fun to try something new.
Good evening!
I have to agree with Fred on this one. Can't please everyone all the time. Nevertheless, Blacksheep welcomes all suggestions and opinions . We will continue to try and create better quality cables by testing out new materials.
Frank
I have to agree with Fred on this one. Can't please everyone all the time. Nevertheless, Blacksheep welcomes all suggestions and opinions . We will continue to try and create better quality cables by testing out new materials.
Frank
Hi Mark,
Sent you BK Mars out this morning! Should be there by the end of the week? Andrea, any sign of yours yet?
Frank
Sent you BK Mars out this morning! Should be there by the end of the week? Andrea, any sign of yours yet?
Frank
Hey folks,
After about 40 or so hours of break-in, the cables are definitely balancing out. The bass is tighter and more coherent, and the highs have mellowed out a tad, but are still somewhat forward. I'm not sure I'd call it a "bright" cable any more - it's much more toward what I'd call neutral, albeit with a slight sparkle or tizz. The detail retrieval and imaging are still amazing - I'll have to plug the Morrows back in and see how they stack up.
I would strongly recommend that anyone trying these cables give them a chance to break in, for at least 50 hours. Whether you listen to them during the break in period or not is your call.
Before anyone interjects, it's not that my ears/brain have gotten used to them; the breaking in was done while I was at work or sleeping, with the CD on repeat with a very dynamic disc (Polytown, if you must know) playing into my passive preamp but with the amp off.
Though the treble is a bit tipped up, they're not fatiguing - I find myself looking for discs that will really highlight its pros or reveal its cons, and instead of analyzing I'm just listening and enjoying. Ok, I'm analyzing a little bit, as I promised Frank I would. 😉
Something that did occur to me is that Fostex drivers, the FE206E in particular, are known for their tendency to "shout". I've never experienced this characteristic in mine until I tried the Blacksheep Mars. I'm starting to wonder if the brightness I'm hearing is less a quality of the cable as much as it is actually the true nature of the Fostex driver shining through a neutral, revealing cable... I'm anxious to read other folks' experiences.
Frank - I'm enjoying the cables, but if you have anyone in the states waiting for a pair, please let me know and I'll pass them along. But if you change the recipe, I'd be happy to give them another whirl. 😀
After about 40 or so hours of break-in, the cables are definitely balancing out. The bass is tighter and more coherent, and the highs have mellowed out a tad, but are still somewhat forward. I'm not sure I'd call it a "bright" cable any more - it's much more toward what I'd call neutral, albeit with a slight sparkle or tizz. The detail retrieval and imaging are still amazing - I'll have to plug the Morrows back in and see how they stack up.
I would strongly recommend that anyone trying these cables give them a chance to break in, for at least 50 hours. Whether you listen to them during the break in period or not is your call.
Before anyone interjects, it's not that my ears/brain have gotten used to them; the breaking in was done while I was at work or sleeping, with the CD on repeat with a very dynamic disc (Polytown, if you must know) playing into my passive preamp but with the amp off.
Though the treble is a bit tipped up, they're not fatiguing - I find myself looking for discs that will really highlight its pros or reveal its cons, and instead of analyzing I'm just listening and enjoying. Ok, I'm analyzing a little bit, as I promised Frank I would. 😉
Something that did occur to me is that Fostex drivers, the FE206E in particular, are known for their tendency to "shout". I've never experienced this characteristic in mine until I tried the Blacksheep Mars. I'm starting to wonder if the brightness I'm hearing is less a quality of the cable as much as it is actually the true nature of the Fostex driver shining through a neutral, revealing cable... I'm anxious to read other folks' experiences.
Frank - I'm enjoying the cables, but if you have anyone in the states waiting for a pair, please let me know and I'll pass them along. But if you change the recipe, I'd be happy to give them another whirl. 😀
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I will confess that that's precisely what I expected, given the positivity of the first impression yet the note you (right?) made about their balance.
I must say that people have no patience these days... with cables, with capacitors (thinking of those guys asserting that Solen MKP sounds grainy...), whatever. This corrupts their judgment more than they can imagine. 🙂
That said, what you described mirrors my experience of how much cables change in sonic behaviour with break in perfectly.
Regarding the Fostex... well I heard some (FE103?) and they shouted indeed...even on a tube amp. I'm no fan of wideband speaker cones.
Forgot to say...I'm anxious to receive mine (Mars) too, as it sound like it could match my system well 🙂
And I'll be glad I got them before any change is made in the materials, if they're like that 🙂 because my experience tells that nothing is really better than anything else, just different; and apparently this cable already has good electrical parameters (they definitely challenge Kimber Cable on that ground).
And I'll be glad I got them before any change is made in the materials, if they're like that 🙂 because my experience tells that nothing is really better than anything else, just different; and apparently this cable already has good electrical parameters (they definitely challenge Kimber Cable on that ground).
Hi Jase,
Your French is just fine.
Can you please describe your system? I.e. source, pre, amp, speakers? I think it's germane to the discussion.
Thanks,
Joe
I will admit that I swapped caps in my amp quite recently (from Dayton film & foils to Russian K40 PIOs), so I hope it's not the caps breaking in rather than the cables. IME, however, caps take much longer to break in than do cables.
It so happens that I have a pair of Klipsch Cornwalls being delivered tomorrow - I'm sure they'll need some work to sound their best, but they might help to rule out (or finger) the Fostex as the source of the "shout".
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sure, first, i run ( as of right now ) i use 2 aleph minis SMD In se mode not balanced.
Then i use a sony cd player sdp650ps, older but very well built, and then i use a alps passive pre-amp.
SIMPLE in simple out.!
Who needs speakers? No need to listen - he can tell what a cable sounds like by taking it apart!
Despite all that,
Still looking for a few more testers in the US. Any volunteers? Just go back to the begining of this thread to find out the detail!
Frank
Still looking for a few more testers in the US. Any volunteers? Just go back to the begining of this thread to find out the detail!
Frank
This is revolutionary GUYS!!
I just ordered some of this wire,and if it sounds as good as Jase says, I'm getting rid of my speakers too!!! HE HE😀
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Sorry, forgot i use these,
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No i can judge, and by looking at the wire, not even audio grade or anything, just plain simple alarm-clock 5meters for 1cent wire, i would assume that it's GARBAGE.
It's ridiculous to say so when 1) the interconnect has been reported to really sound good and 2) the wire is silver plated (suggesting it must be OFC copper in the first place), which is not alarm-clockish nor 5 metre per 1cent I think 🙂
That it is PVC insulated means little to nothing, given the particular geometry. And as for the plugs, they're quite good (in sound & stability of contact). 🙂
Wait... and how could you say that the solder has no silver in it? 🙂 Even though the quality of the soldering job (which of course you didn't let us see) is much more important than that.
For the record, anyway... I like to use solder with a small percentage of copper in it, rather than silver. Ah well 😛
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First of all the wire is NOT silver plated at all, it is just regular hookup wire. I even posted a link to the manufacture of the wire.
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