The food thread

There is a chef in Norway who is big on foraged foods, and most of the meat he served he obtained by hunting (elk or whatever they have in Norway) but then he started getting aged milk cows from a nearby dairy farm. I think most of his beef dishes involve long, slow cooking, but he claims to get excellent results from these animals that would otherwise gone to rendering plants.

I am not sure where you get this info from, but a vast majority of beef here is from "retired" cows.
I've spoken to some farmers, and they said that after the cows have been used for dairy for some years, they stop breeding them for a year, and change the feed to get the right fat % and muscle tissue recuperation. The cows I've seen also have access to automatically controlled brushes for scratching/massage effect whenever they want, not every farm has this setup, but it's happening. The cows wander about, almost like a free range indoor setup, using the brush when they want to.
We do not have the luxury to throw away good meat, not enough farm land.
 
how about prawn ?
 

Attachments

  • DSC00110.jpg
    DSC00110.jpg
    708.1 KB · Views: 119
I am not sure where you get this info from, but a vast majority of beef here is from "retired" cows.
I've spoken to some farmers, and they said that after the cows have been used for dairy for some years, they stop breeding them for a year, and change the feed to get the right fat % and muscle tissue recuperation. .


With Mutton coming back into fashion this is done with Sheep now. Poor girls spend 6 years scraching a living on the hills then bought down for a years fattening in the valleys. I had always thoguht Dairy cows don't have much meet on them though as they've been bred to be milkers compared with the freaky Belgian Blue, and the males Friesans are only used for veal, but appears I was wrong.
 
I am not sure where you get this info from, but a vast majority of beef here is from "retired" cows.
I've spoken to some farmers, and they said that after the cows have been used for dairy for some years, they stop breeding them for a year, and change the feed to get the right fat % and muscle tissue recuperation. The cows I've seen also have access to automatically controlled brushes for scratching/massage effect whenever they want, not every farm has this setup, but it's happening. The cows wander about, almost like a free range indoor setup, using the brush when they want to.
We do not have the luxury to throw away good meat, not enough farm land.



I stand corrected, good to know.
 
Well, I'll be darned. Learn something new every second day.

Cal, mutton is old sheep. Lamb as we know it is raised for food primarily (not sure about the wool factor) and slaughtered young, that includes virtually all the imported Aussie, Kiwi, and Icelandic lamb as well as most domestic lamb. Mutton being goat in India is a special situation not sure if it's lost in translation or what.

Old lamb or mutton has a strong taste and more than a hint of barnyard. One thing that caught my eye was a BBC special on feeding the Queen. They showed lamb chops that were huge and almost devoid of fat, almost as big as a veal chop. I have never seen that anywhere, can anyone comment?

I had lamb chops at a restaurant in Europe that displayed that "By order of Her Majesty" seal (I don't remember the exact wording) and they were tiny with about 70% fat and virtually no meat.
 
Sometimes you aim for authentic, sometimes for comforting. This definitely belongs to that last category.

A "kind of" moussaka (I wouldn't want to offend our Greek members):

- one layer of oven roasted potato cubes,
- one layer of carefully reduced meat and tomato sauce,
- one layer of grilled eggplant slices,
- one layer of overly cheesy bechamel.
 

Attachments

  • mou - Copie.jpg
    mou - Copie.jpg
    97.1 KB · Views: 98
in the UK, lamb is from a sheep under one year old, hogget ffor one that is between 1 and 2 years old, and mutton over two years old.


In India, mutton is a euphemism for goat meat, I can personally testify. But proper recipes that call for mutton/goat have spicing and cooking times and techniques for it, whereas, if lamb was used in 'mutton' recipes, the meat would be dry and over-spiced.


Vindaloo is only made with pork, and old, strongly flavoured pork, steeped in wine vinegar and garlic. HTH
 
Cal, mutton is old sheep
Yes, everything you said is what I grew up with.
In India, mutton is a euphemism for goat meat
And this is the part I learned yesterday, but when I do the wiki, it doesn't struck me as a euphemism as seen from my attachment.
We don't use the term Hogget here. We seem to have Lamb or Mutton.