The chest freezer cleanout is done and Its currently defrosting.
I would like to ask you all, what's the longest you'd leave beef in a deep freezer and still eat it?
I cooked a couple of small 5 year old sirloin steaks for the girls (dogs) last night and they looked good. I might try the T-bones, pending input.
Also, at the end of the month I'll be camping for 3 days/2 nights at the racetrack with 2 of my boys and my grandson. We'll be equipped with a Weber grill, a Blackstone griddle and a propane burner. Burgers and steaks are on the dinner menu but I haven't filled out the rest. What are your camp kitchen favorites?
I would like to ask you all, what's the longest you'd leave beef in a deep freezer and still eat it?
I cooked a couple of small 5 year old sirloin steaks for the girls (dogs) last night and they looked good. I might try the T-bones, pending input.
Also, at the end of the month I'll be camping for 3 days/2 nights at the racetrack with 2 of my boys and my grandson. We'll be equipped with a Weber grill, a Blackstone griddle and a propane burner. Burgers and steaks are on the dinner menu but I haven't filled out the rest. What are your camp kitchen favorites?
@seventenths, i'm a pseudo vegetarian.not a dessert wine fan but that does look good.
A 35 years old Layon is not a dessert wine anymore, it is more an "borderline experiementation", the "maderisation" is pushed to the extremest level and the taste is strong, really strong, it was fantastic.
Here is the wine i've choosen in the honor diyaudio forum :

Bill, if early or late blights are your enemy, there are two very good options. A rain shelter is best of course. If that is not in the cards, Copper sulphate wettable powder is next. Sure you have to have one of them there pump sprayer things but it is worth it. Our climates are similar. You sometimes get rain at just the wrong time. I grew tomatoes for years (600 sq ft. garden) and before planting the darn things, I made sure I had that wonderful powder on hand and started spraying July 1 and every week or two weeks after that depending on the rain.One year I will succeed!
Yes by golly, silly me. Who would ever have thought that...I mean the seeds, silly.
...oh never mind Tony.
Then why not buy when you need them? Who the ^^^^ wants to eat a tomato picked a half year ago?These tomatoes will last for up to six months.
Mayo. Is that the American edible version of of pus?where you rub the tomatoes into the bread instead of using mayo.
Oh my. I thought you were a man of future and vision. Don't prove me wrong Tony. I have hope for your future. This is coming from a guy whose wife calls him Mr. Tomato head.It was absolutely the best summer dish I could imagine.
I feel sorry for you at this moment Mr. Catalonian.hell no, we were not having gazpacho.... we're self respecting Catalans, you know? Gazpacho if for the gipsies in Andaluzia.
Oh wait, I forgot, you're an American. Now avoiding conflict, if you were still in Spain, I would feel less sorry for you.
With your climate, I am surprised you don't get seedlings.Sadly about a month late starting the seeds off,
I have never started from seed.
Depends 100% on how it was stored.I would like to ask you all, what's the longest you'd leave beef in a deep freezer and still eat it?
Hopefully you cooked them they way they liked it. My dog preferred rare no matter how long Daddy aged them in the freezer..I cooked a couple of small 5 year old sirloin steaks for the girls (dogs)
Can of beans. What, are you trying to complicate things?What are your camp kitchen favorites?
I am heading out in about three weeks. Let's see what happens.
Yes by golly, silly me. Who would ever have thought that...
...oh never mind Tony.
Then why not buy when you need them? Who the ^^^^ wants to eat a tomato picked a half year ago?
Mayo. Is that the American edible version of of pus?
Oh my. I thought you were a man of future and vision. Don't prove me wrong Tony. I have hope for your future. This is coming from a guy whose wife calls him Mr. Tomato head.
I feel sorry for you at this moment Mr. Catalonian.
Oh wait, I forgot, you're an American. Now avoiding conflict, if you were still in Spain, I would feel less sorry for you.
Ay Dios Mio! Que mala pata tienes hoy Cal...
Why? Because you can not grow tomatoes in winter... so you grow those tomatoes in summer when the weather is good.
AND, you can not go to the store to buy those tomatoes when they're out of season... In many parts of the World you only buy and eat what's on season. No one in Chile grows these tomatoes!
See... while your ancestors were freezing in the Northern Latitudes hoping not to run out of mead by late January, my ancestors were enjoying reasonable weather on the Med and had all kinds of fresh tomatoes hanging in the kitchen. They stay fresh for quite a while.
I'm an American-Catalan. The best of all World, IMHO. Although my wife might have a somewhat different view on it. After all, we Western Mediterraneans invented a type of tomato that will last six months, fresh, in the kitchen. Now I got them growing in the New World. That's called civilization. I'm civilizing California.
Maybe I could help you civilize BC... want some seeds?
Mayo can be good.... in the right context. I prefer not to have mayo in my sandwiches, but a nice aioli is God's Gift to Mankind.
BTW, my wife calls me "Tony"...
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I think it passed its expiry date a couple decades ago. It's kinda like cheese. It keeps getting more fantastic the longer you leave it.and the taste is strong, really strong, it was fantastic.
The chest freezer cleanout is done and Its currently defrosting.
I would like to ask you all, what's the longest you'd leave beef in a deep freezer and still eat it?
I cooked a couple of small 5 year old sirloin steaks for the girls (dogs) last night and they looked good. I might try the T-bones, pending input.
Also, at the end of the month I'll be camping for 3 days/2 nights at the racetrack with 2 of my boys and my grandson. We'll be equipped with a Weber grill, a Blackstone griddle and a propane burner. Burgers and steaks are on the dinner menu but I haven't filled out the rest. What are your camp kitchen favorites?
If in a vacuum bag, meats will last for a very long time in the freezer with minimal degradation after the initial freeze damage. I've had stuff like tri tips in the back of the freezer for up to five years ( Ooops! I forgot we had this...).
Sometimes I've seen some freezer burn in meats, if so, rather that throw it away ( hey, money don't grow in trees ) I just use if for soups and braising.
In a vacuum bag, beef will last for a year and a half in the refrigerator... EXCEPT after about 12 months they start to change... the proteins change and the meat, although edible, has a plasticky mouth feel. Normally I store beef in vacuum bags in the garage fridge for up to 9 months. We once sous vide'd a rather expensive cowboy ribeye that was 18 months old. I cooked it, but after a couple of bites we tossed it away... I mean, it was still good to eat but it had a chewy plasticky mouth feel.
Freezing beef changes its texture... so it makes no sense in buying good beef if you're gonna freeze it.
IMHO.
On the BB! grill, beef (steaks) and corn are my favorites. The beef cooks fast and corn on the cob is delicious grilled. Since they cook quick, they don't use up a lot of propane. Tri tips are also very good on the BBQ after a nice dry rub, but they take longer at a lower setting.
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@seventenths, i'm a pseudo vegetarian.
A 35 years old Layon is not a dessert wine anymore, it is more an "borderline experiementation", the "maderisation" is pushed to the extremest level and the taste is strong, really strong, it was fantastic.
Here is the wine i've choosen in the honor diyaudio forum :
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You do need a high alcohol level to keep those white wines going.
For a "normal" white wine, the longest I've been able to store them is 10 years, after that they start to loose their vibrancy, turn yellow and musky.
Red wines, of course, are different.
I do have some Late Harvest Rieslings in storage... about 20 years old by now. They are half bottles and are delicious, sort of like a nectar, eh?
Paired with grapes, Fuji apples, ripe cheese, membrillo and chocolates... Mon Dieu! Even La Vache Qui Rit works here...
Chateau d'Yquem... Come to think about that... I think I got two or three half bottles of that too... And some Sauternes too.
IMHO, those things don't get touch chez moi until they got 8 years under their belt.
Cal, beans? Of course, but in moderation. I do have to share a camper with these boys. I'm not looking to get too crazy with the menu but with racing wrapping up by ~ 5pm each day, we'll have plenty of time to hang out, cook or whatever.
Tony, aye, corn. I might try sous vide "baked potatoes" cooked at home and heated up on the grill. If it doesn't work out, no big loss.
I'll also bring plenty of fruit.
Food trucks will be there but they're so hit or miss that I'll be prepared to skip them altogether.
Tony, aye, corn. I might try sous vide "baked potatoes" cooked at home and heated up on the grill. If it doesn't work out, no big loss.
I'll also bring plenty of fruit.
Food trucks will be there but they're so hit or miss that I'll be prepared to skip them altogether.
Why do you need to stoe beef?
Is it ageing, or variable seasonal price?
Freezing causes ice crystals to grow, damages texture.
Tomatoes and other seasonal vegetables I understand, but beef is sold frozen around the year, and some stores may be selling freshly slaughtered meat some part of the year.
Is it ageing, or variable seasonal price?
Freezing causes ice crystals to grow, damages texture.
Tomatoes and other seasonal vegetables I understand, but beef is sold frozen around the year, and some stores may be selling freshly slaughtered meat some part of the year.
Naresh-
North America and India are very different places!
We always have fresh meats at our supermarkets.
And... Don't you shop at Costco?
BTW, I just found out... we're gonna have Costcos near our rented apartments during vacation...
https://www.costco.co.jp/store-finder/Kyoto Yawata
https://www.costco.co.jp/store-finder/Okinawa Nanjo
We'll see how far it is from our places. This time we are not renting a car... we'll see how long I put up with that nonsense from my wife. I'm gonna take the folding shopping bag I bought last year at El Corte Ingles... Gonna be stylin' in Japan.
https://www.elcorteingles.es/hogar/...er/?parentCategoryId=999.52871013&color=Negro
They got a hotdog meal for 180 Yen... That's awesome.
https://www.costcuisine.com/post/costco-siwin-japanese-style-sausage-review
Wife wants to go to restaurants... I wanna go to Costco and load up on shabu shabu beef, beer, sake... rice wise we'll have to be careful. OTOH, we can carry four 50 lbs bags of checked luggage.
Maybe we can buy a ton of stuff at the Kyoto Costco and bring it home. ;-)
BTW- there was the year we flew to Hawai'i. We checked in a bag with folding beach, chairs, flippers, snorkels, towels... even two beach umbrellas.
Oh, yeah... I think we need to take our own folding chairs to Kyoto. My wife got us a traditional house with tatami, cushions and futons. I don't know if we can last a month sitting on the floor.
Oh.. speaking of freezing meats.... well, if we go to Kyoto Costco, how much and often will depend on the size of the fridge and freezer... ;-)
North America and India are very different places!
We always have fresh meats at our supermarkets.
And... Don't you shop at Costco?
BTW, I just found out... we're gonna have Costcos near our rented apartments during vacation...
https://www.costco.co.jp/store-finder/Kyoto Yawata
https://www.costco.co.jp/store-finder/Okinawa Nanjo
We'll see how far it is from our places. This time we are not renting a car... we'll see how long I put up with that nonsense from my wife. I'm gonna take the folding shopping bag I bought last year at El Corte Ingles... Gonna be stylin' in Japan.
https://www.elcorteingles.es/hogar/...er/?parentCategoryId=999.52871013&color=Negro
They got a hotdog meal for 180 Yen... That's awesome.
https://www.costcuisine.com/post/costco-siwin-japanese-style-sausage-review
Wife wants to go to restaurants... I wanna go to Costco and load up on shabu shabu beef, beer, sake... rice wise we'll have to be careful. OTOH, we can carry four 50 lbs bags of checked luggage.
Maybe we can buy a ton of stuff at the Kyoto Costco and bring it home. ;-)
BTW- there was the year we flew to Hawai'i. We checked in a bag with folding beach, chairs, flippers, snorkels, towels... even two beach umbrellas.
Oh, yeah... I think we need to take our own folding chairs to Kyoto. My wife got us a traditional house with tatami, cushions and futons. I don't know if we can last a month sitting on the floor.
Oh.. speaking of freezing meats.... well, if we go to Kyoto Costco, how much and often will depend on the size of the fridge and freezer... ;-)
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@NareshBrd we buy 1/4 - 1/2 beef every so often. The appeal to us is in buying hormone free, locally raised beef, at a good price, from a small family owned ranch.
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