The "Elsinore Project" Thread

[mito147]

Hallo
I am using my Elsinores with modern stereo Yamaha Receiver R-N402 with folowing ouput power.

I am afraid, if I turn volume to max, that will damage the drivers.
Does anyone have some experience?

 

[Joe Rasmussen]

You will probably damage your ears first.

I have used the Elsinores with amplifiers much more powerful than that.

BTW, chances are that if you turn the amplifier all up, then the amp is clipping and you will hear massive amounts of distortion, and it is the amplifier that is distorting and not the speaker. I can also tell you that you can damage nearly all speakers if you do that and that it is likely that the warranty won't cover it. They will examine the nature of the damage and reject the claim on the basis of abuse.

Always good to be selective with the volume control, no matter what amp you use.

But I suspect you will be alright.

Cheers, Joe

 

[mito147]

Thank you very much Mr. Rasmussen

actually, the problem are my kids. This Receiver is physically locked in shelving unit, but can be turned on with phone app, and when I am not at home, thay can do the damage.

 

[SRMcGee]

You need new kids.

Regards.

 

[Jonasz]

Maybe unplug the receiver when you're not home, just to be safe. 🙂

 

[Mikerodrig27]

Pull one of the leads out of the speaker terminals on the back. Depending on how into this stuff your kids are, that may drive them nuts trying to figure it out

 

[timrwarren]

Should I fill in space around wave guide?

 

[Mikerodrig27]

That veneer work is very pretty. If you have to fill it (I suspect you are going to have to) you could use a nice contrasting dense hardwood. Maybe even make a neat pattern out of it like you see on fancy cutting boards or something. Maybe this is an opportunity, not a problem.

Beautiful veneer work BTW

 

[AllenB]

Nice work timrwarren. If your waveguide face is flat and level with the outer front cabinet then the fill should be solid.

 

[timrwarren]

Would it change the sound of tweeter if I filled it in? (For better). Or just cosmetics. It’s a MK5 design. Have been using and loving these for about 8 years.

 

[ScottG]

It should.

Basically the way it is now is adding-in diffractive (and reflective) artifacts at a higher freq.. changing the linearity of the design for the worse.

 

[Joe Rasmussen]

Very much recommended that you fill it in, this is common for those who went from the early Mk1 and Mk2 enclosures and made the upgrade to Mk5 or Mk6. See below, I have used Red and this time they are a kind of silver grey.

The pair below are Mk6 "MFC" with the top grade Audyn True Copper Max 1.8uF on the tweeter - they are for sale!

 

[timrwarren]

I believe I will do that. Should I use MDF? Or will any wood work? I think black would look good.

 

[zman01]

timwarren,

Maybe do a mock up test with a piece of foam core board and see how it looks with black?

Probably it will look good.

 

[zman01]

The pair below are Mk6 "MFC" with the top grade Audyn True Copper Max 1.8uF on the tweeter - they are for sale!

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Joe,

These need to find a new place because you got the Elsinore ULD now?

 

[Mikerodrig27]

I believe I will do that. Should I use MDF? Or will any wood work? I think black would look good.

Aren't the woofers suppose to be recessed? MDF should work just fine.

 

[wesayso]

A darker wood (veneer) would probably look good too.

 

[timrwarren]

Woofers we’re not recessed on this earlier design.

 

[Sharkythefrog]

Mikerodrig27,

I think ever since Joe has shared that the speakers sound better elevated by 10-15 cm, some builders (including myself) have been considering placing the XO in this "base" or free space that is outside of the main speaker cabinet.

But you are correct - Joe's XO PCB makes placing the XO inside also easy - my understanding is that the PCB with components can fit through the driver cut-outs and can be placed inside the cabinet?

I actually raised the cabinet by 15 cm (6") to put monoblock amps in there. Got quite nice! Just go fo it.

 

[Sharkythefrog]

Both the SB26CDC and the SBxxNBAC are very much appreciated drivers in this house. I have a friend that never finished his MK5 build 8 years ago when I did build mine. Maybe I can pick up his unfinished cabinet in his basement, just to help him keep the house clean and tidy - And then build the MKSB-vesion of Elsinore. 8 years later

Looking forward to some more info!!

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