In Holland I can buy the P.Audio HP-10W Woofers and in the same shop the P.Audio PHT-407N Tweeters.
Is that wise to do or does the HP10W work better with the Motorola KSN1001A Piezo-electric Tweeters or equivalent?
And how about this amp for the boominator:
Specificaties - Maxamp 12V Amplifier
Features - Maxamp 12V Versterker
Is that wise to do or does the HP10W work better with the Motorola KSN1001A Piezo-electric Tweeters or equivalent?
And how about this amp for the boominator:
Specificaties - Maxamp 12V Amplifier
Features - Maxamp 12V Versterker
(sorry, I can not yet edit my posts as a new member)
By the way, the shop offers P.Audio PHT-407 ferrite tweeters, not the N version (Neodymium)
By the way, the shop offers P.Audio PHT-407 ferrite tweeters, not the N version (Neodymium)
If you bother to read through this thread like many of us did you will find the answer..... The ferrite version is not suitable
BJ
About to start my first boominator after finally finding a way to get my hands on a set of P.audio woofers!
Now the issue is finding tweeters. The links I have found are all dead so could some one confirm where the current best place to get tweeters (don't mind upgrading or finding a local replacement if that is a better option too)
I think this is one shop I could order them from that will ship to New Zealand but is the price for one unit or a pair?
Piezoelectric Speaker KSN1001A - Super Horn: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Now the issue is finding tweeters. The links I have found are all dead so could some one confirm where the current best place to get tweeters (don't mind upgrading or finding a local replacement if that is a better option too)
I think this is one shop I could order them from that will ship to New Zealand but is the price for one unit or a pair?
Piezoelectric Speaker KSN1001A - Super Horn: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Snap! I'm just building mine here in NZ also. I suppose you got the hp-10w's from cannon sound like me?
For tweeters I got these Piezo Horn Tweeters - 400 W - Jaycar Electronics look like chinese ksn1005 replicas, I haven't tried them yet but should be fine for $11 nzd.
Where did you get your amp from Jestah? I having trouble getting anything other than a cheap lepai.
For tweeters I got these Piezo Horn Tweeters - 400 W - Jaycar Electronics look like chinese ksn1005 replicas, I haven't tried them yet but should be fine for $11 nzd.
Where did you get your amp from Jestah? I having trouble getting anything other than a cheap lepai.
Mangatutu, I tried about a year ago to get them from Cannon but at the time they would not ship over seas. I had a made in Oz bring them over when they moved but that has seen them in transit for well over 6 months!
Do you mind asking how much you paid for your set from them and was it recent?
I have used the cheap tweeters from Jaycar in other boomboxes. They are ok but was hoping to build a "to spec" boombinator so I am happy to pay for decent tweeters.
I ordered my amps from 41hz, they should arrive soon but before then I was using a Helder Hifi 25w amp that was pretty good. He seem to have stop selling them now 🙁
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Do you mind asking how much you paid for your set from them and was it recent?
I have used the cheap tweeters from Jaycar in other boomboxes. They are ok but was hoping to build a "to spec" boombinator so I am happy to pay for decent tweeters.
I ordered my amps from 41hz, they should arrive soon but before then I was using a Helder Hifi 25w amp that was pretty good. He seem to have stop selling them now 🙁
I had
If you bother to study audio technics like some of "us" (Saturnus)
you could be inventing and developing your own boombox
instead of being here on this forum, copying ideas from others
and answering newby questions in such an unfriendly manner!
;-)
Anyone some comments on the amp I linked in the post above??
It's an amp that's designed to be used in boomboxes. It's very efficient and feature-packed. Good **** 😉
Jestah, I got the four hp-10s for $438 australian delivered. Took 2 weeks to arrive.
After your post I found an assembled amp set, I hope it's the one you were talking about?
ebay item 261306647968
As for tweeters do you think these are better than the jaycar ones?
Audio Shop Loudspeakers
After your post I found an assembled amp set, I hope it's the one you were talking about?
ebay item 261306647968
As for tweeters do you think these are better than the jaycar ones?
Audio Shop Loudspeakers
variation on the boominator
hi guys, (MODS) Im new to this site and not sure if this is where i should be posting, if its not let me know. I am looking to build a variation on the boominator, I am using car audio equipment i found on sale that i just couldn't pass up but I have some questions. But 1st I will layout everything i already have.
1 x Pioneer deck DEH-P7400HD - CD Receiver with Full-Dot LCD Display, MIXTRAX, and HD Radio™ Tuner | Pioneer of Canada - English
2 x speakers (4 total) Car Audio Products: Car Audio Speakers: 6 1/2 Inch Car Speakers: Alpine Type E Custom Fit 2-Way 6.5" Coaxial Speakers | Visions Electronics
2 x sub woofers Car Audio Products: Car Subwoofers: 10 Inch Car Subwoofers: Kicker 10" 4-ohm ES-Series Subwoofer | Visions Electronics
1 x monoblock amp Car Audio Products: Car Amplifiers: Mono Car Subwoofer Amplifiers: JL Audio 250 Watt Mono Class A/B Amplifier | Visions Electronics
1 x PSU http://www.corsair.com/en/power-sup...att-80-plus-bronze-certified-modular-psu.html
1 x 20A solar charge controller 5 10 15 20A MPPT Solar Panel Battery Regulator Charge Controller CE 12V 24V BOC | eBay
Solar panel yet to be determined
This set up has quite a bit higher power draw than the regular boominator and i plan to get ~100Ah's worth of SLA batteries. I also want to use the PSU for indoor use, while simultaneously being able to charge the batteries. Its the second part that Im not sure how to do, the PSU is sufficiently powerful to do so but only puts out 12v and so wouldn't be able to fully/properly charge the batteries. And thats my concern what would i need to properly charge them, i thought maybe i could utilize the solar charge controller but not sure if its a good idea.
Thanks for the help guys!
hi guys, (MODS) Im new to this site and not sure if this is where i should be posting, if its not let me know. I am looking to build a variation on the boominator, I am using car audio equipment i found on sale that i just couldn't pass up but I have some questions. But 1st I will layout everything i already have.
1 x Pioneer deck DEH-P7400HD - CD Receiver with Full-Dot LCD Display, MIXTRAX, and HD Radio™ Tuner | Pioneer of Canada - English
2 x speakers (4 total) Car Audio Products: Car Audio Speakers: 6 1/2 Inch Car Speakers: Alpine Type E Custom Fit 2-Way 6.5" Coaxial Speakers | Visions Electronics
2 x sub woofers Car Audio Products: Car Subwoofers: 10 Inch Car Subwoofers: Kicker 10" 4-ohm ES-Series Subwoofer | Visions Electronics
1 x monoblock amp Car Audio Products: Car Amplifiers: Mono Car Subwoofer Amplifiers: JL Audio 250 Watt Mono Class A/B Amplifier | Visions Electronics
1 x PSU http://www.corsair.com/en/power-sup...att-80-plus-bronze-certified-modular-psu.html
1 x 20A solar charge controller 5 10 15 20A MPPT Solar Panel Battery Regulator Charge Controller CE 12V 24V BOC | eBay
Solar panel yet to be determined
This set up has quite a bit higher power draw than the regular boominator and i plan to get ~100Ah's worth of SLA batteries. I also want to use the PSU for indoor use, while simultaneously being able to charge the batteries. Its the second part that Im not sure how to do, the PSU is sufficiently powerful to do so but only puts out 12v and so wouldn't be able to fully/properly charge the batteries. And thats my concern what would i need to properly charge them, i thought maybe i could utilize the solar charge controller but not sure if its a good idea.
Thanks for the help guys!
See if you can get a good price and sell it all. For portable use it's less than worthless. You'll need about a 200Ah battery and 200W solar cells to have half the battery life of what the Boominator has on 2x 7Ah SLAs and 15W solar cells. And it's not play nearly as loud or as good.
To put it into perspective how vastly more power you're using for nothing, your sub amp will draw about 5-6 times as much power as the Boominator uses at full power but in idle, ie. not playing music. To play as loud as the Boominator with your speakers you'd need a 400W amp into all channels. I'm not kidding.
To put it into perspective how vastly more power you're using for nothing, your sub amp will draw about 5-6 times as much power as the Boominator uses at full power but in idle, ie. not playing music. To play as loud as the Boominator with your speakers you'd need a 400W amp into all channels. I'm not kidding.
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Wow thanks Saturnus, I had no idea how far off the beaten track i was on this. Thanks a lot, i should still be able to return it all for a refund. Is it at all feasible to use the car deck in place of the amp 6? I really like the features (bluetooth, aux/usb inputs, AM/FM radio), would it have similar power consumption the the amp 6?
Madness
I have finally got round to building the Qubinator! I got a Swedish friend to import the P.audio HP-10T's, but I am still waiting for battery and amp to arrive from China, before i can glue the whole thing together.
Anyhow.. I know you guys like photos, so here's a couple of the project so far.
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An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
One question, what is the best way to fix the drivers to the baffle? Epoxy and bolts through the baffle? and in that case should i remove the rubber gasket? I remember reading something about this previously in this thread, but cant remember where, and didn't take notes 🙁
Hi Jasper do you know where I can purchase the hp10t drivers? I've looked all over the net and can't find anyone who has them in stock. Is there a good alternate driver I can use. Thanks.
Sorry to offend, but my point is that the answers are all in this forum... Some people can't be bothered to read through (and they have said that on many occassions) In doing so, they are short cutting the learning process which surely we should discourage. I learned a lot through reading this forum and making my own notes.......
BJ
I kind of agree with brummiejon. The boominator is not 'just another boombox' and you simply have to take some time to understand the basics.
@ePod. Don't, just really don't, use a headunit. The AMP6 too has aux in, radio is possible by plugging in the 3.5mm cable and select fm radio on your mobile phone. Sure Hifi has a nice native 12v bluetooth board which can be connected by 3.5mm or RCA. A class-d amplifier and a bluetooth module use a fraction of what a headunit uses.
@ePod. Don't, just really don't, use a headunit. The AMP6 too has aux in, radio is possible by plugging in the 3.5mm cable and select fm radio on your mobile phone. Sure Hifi has a nice native 12v bluetooth board which can be connected by 3.5mm or RCA. A class-d amplifier and a bluetooth module use a fraction of what a headunit uses.
No problem Brummiejon, I was not offended ;-) But I do not understand...
What is wrong with short cutting a learning process? Have you studied and
used books? And in that way short-cutted your learning process?
Is the goal of this forum to make us understand that perseverance and
endurance are good qualities that make us better persons? And that only
good people are allowed to make the Boominator?
The next big thing isn't a voice controled computer (as seen in Star Trek)
but a fully functional "Scott me up Beamy!" One place where this device
wouldn't be appreciated to much probably is the "I reached the top of the
Mount Everest" Club (no, not the sherpa clubhouse...). And that I understand.
I have read more than 1000 posts in this thread. It took me quit some time.
I estimate that more than half are off topic or questions like "Can I make the
boominator with only one old speaker that I found in my granddads car?" ( ;-) )
Lot's of links are dead and the boominator wiki isn't finished and has dead
links as well.
I have never build any electronic device or a cage for a rabbit. Building a
Boominator would be a big challenge for me. But the biggest challenge for a
build is probably muddling through this monstrous thread finding the right info.
Somewhere Saturnus wrote that he was thinking of making a very well
documented build of a Boominator to sell the instructions. I wish he had,
I would certainly buy them.
Now, I have sold my JVC RV-NB10 yesterday so there is no way back ;-) (OK,
I still have another one)! I bought the Boominator package with Blue Aran.
Should arrive this week. Finding the best wood supplier and trying to make a buy
list.
Can anyone try to compare the above mentioned Maxamp amplifier, which has a
lot of features and is developed and made in Holland especially for boomboxes,
with the recommended AMP6 Basic & Sneaky or AMP9 Basic amplifier.
What is wrong with short cutting a learning process? Have you studied and
used books? And in that way short-cutted your learning process?
Is the goal of this forum to make us understand that perseverance and
endurance are good qualities that make us better persons? And that only
good people are allowed to make the Boominator?
The next big thing isn't a voice controled computer (as seen in Star Trek)
but a fully functional "Scott me up Beamy!" One place where this device
wouldn't be appreciated to much probably is the "I reached the top of the
Mount Everest" Club (no, not the sherpa clubhouse...). And that I understand.
I have read more than 1000 posts in this thread. It took me quit some time.
I estimate that more than half are off topic or questions like "Can I make the
boominator with only one old speaker that I found in my granddads car?" ( ;-) )
Lot's of links are dead and the boominator wiki isn't finished and has dead
links as well.
I have never build any electronic device or a cage for a rabbit. Building a
Boominator would be a big challenge for me. But the biggest challenge for a
build is probably muddling through this monstrous thread finding the right info.
Somewhere Saturnus wrote that he was thinking of making a very well
documented build of a Boominator to sell the instructions. I wish he had,
I would certainly buy them.
Now, I have sold my JVC RV-NB10 yesterday so there is no way back ;-) (OK,
I still have another one)! I bought the Boominator package with Blue Aran.
Should arrive this week. Finding the best wood supplier and trying to make a buy
list.
Can anyone try to compare the above mentioned Maxamp amplifier, which has a
lot of features and is developed and made in Holland especially for boomboxes,
with the recommended AMP6 Basic & Sneaky or AMP9 Basic amplifier.
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Yeah. That's out the window for good. I cannot rightfully claim the Boominator as an open source design if I would have any commercial interest in it.
Building a Boominator is intended to be a learning process in which you will learn a great deal by reading this thread, looking up and reading about the things that are talked about but not explained fully, and lastly by getting your hands dirty and actually building it.
Once you mapped out the order you wish to proceed in and start the building process you will find the design deceptively simple and easy to build.
There is no, and will never be, a definitive step-by-step guide to building a Boominator as I feel it defeats the purpose of learning DIY audio and the incentive to individualize each Boominator. The last part I feel is also often underestimated. I love to see pictures and videos of all the different personalized Boominators from around the world. Be it in the form of a special paint job, a veneer trim, built into a trojan horse, built in light effects and so on.
Those pictures, videos and stories from builders around the world is my only reward for sharing this design and helping people out with their questions.
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You can perfectly well sell a book on how to digg a hole in the ground with a shovel without claiming intellectual property on that process.
;-)
Check this post. The guy who made that post is the developer of the maxamp. Main features that I really like:
-Ability to connect a potmeter and control the volume digitally
-Easy modification of input impendance.
-High efficiency also at lower volumes.
-The price
I'd say its on par with the AMP6B. If I'd had to chose I would chose the Maxamp.
On the MaxAmp I cannot comment too much without having tested but I do know that the designer had portable stereos and the Boominator in particular in mind when designing it.
It also offer some nifty features that are very welcome compared to Tripath based designs besides what is mentioned above. For example short circuit protection on the speaker terminals.
The chip used should be at least on par with the Tripath based chips in audio quality at a slightly higher efficiency. The build quality should be outstanding seeing where it's produced.
But, as I said, I have not tested it, so I can only give my opinion on the matter. No hard facts. Only thing that annoys me is that the physical dimensioned aren't mentioned. I want it to fit in a hammond 1590n1 case.
It also offer some nifty features that are very welcome compared to Tripath based designs besides what is mentioned above. For example short circuit protection on the speaker terminals.
The chip used should be at least on par with the Tripath based chips in audio quality at a slightly higher efficiency. The build quality should be outstanding seeing where it's produced.
But, as I said, I have not tested it, so I can only give my opinion on the matter. No hard facts. Only thing that annoys me is that the physical dimensioned aren't mentioned. I want it to fit in a hammond 1590n1 case.
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